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Tossing a prayer at our schools
Emdee
Tuesday, January 8, 2013: 10:06 am
jimenicholls2 said:
"In God We Trust" is our official Motto, adopted via an ACT OF CONGRESS in 1956...


Yep, and administration-led school prayer was struck down by THE SUPREME COURT in 1962. Keep up, Jim.

If Bob Searcy is "dumbed down", then you're a relic whose heyday is long gone. Even the rational Right knows this bill was DOA. Thank God - pun intended - for that.

Christian madrasas are out, abortion is legal and Obamacare is the law of the land. What a sad day for conservatives.
Simply look the other way
Emdee
Tuesday, August 21, 2012: 7:32 pm
Ms. Miles,

The difference is -- to my knowledge -- that the YMCA is not, in its current form, an evangelizing organization. At least, I don't remember being warned of purported hell-fire and damnation the last time I or my family members attended a swim session or played basketball there.

Your use of quotes around the word "freedom" perfectly illustrates the condescending tone surrounding the debate: my guess is you and your ilk don't really believe in the freedom to believe in anything other than your particular brand of evangelicalism.

Not that this would be unusual: the State of Kentucky, right now, is attempting to receive a customized version of the SAT/ACT college entrance tests to remove all references to Darwinian evolution; in Murfreesboro, Tennessee, it took Muslims there two years and a federal court decision to open a mosque. City officials originally denied their permit because, "Islam is not a religion" and that the mosque would contribute to the "Islamization of our society." Can you even imagine the rioting if Christians had been unable to open a church on the grounds that "Christianity is not a religion"?!

Of course, for posterity, one could cite the Ninth Circuit's striking of the Pledge of Allegiance "under God" clause as an unconstitutional endorsement of religion and/or the numerous suits to remove Ten Commandments displays as similar acts of extremism from the Left.

Until both sides are willing to "look the other way", neither will be.
Resident questions Bible Club’s presence at open-house
Emdee
Sunday, August 19, 2012: 5:43 pm
Bluecollar said:
Emdee you're the 1st person I've ever met to hold the view you shared. Evangelical christians all think they're martyrs? Really? We're frightened? Really?

I think it's quite clear that Mr Milligan is afraid his daughter will believe something a christian says. I used to be scared to death that my kids would be brainwashed by some liberals that homosexuals were born that way and that it's ok.
But if we encountered a group like that we would just walk around. This IS a free country and you have the right to believe what you want. It's my job as a parent to teach them how to deal with all kinds of people in this world that would love to impress their views on them.
I've seen christian groups who are very aggressive, and if that's how this group was that night then I wouldn't have agreed with them being there. I'm ok with them being there in the main hallway but staying in there booth and letting people come to them.
I also believe it's a bunch of bull, that these teachers can teach my kids what islamics believe or speak on socialism but if they were to speak about Jesus they would be crossing the line of separation of church and state.


I guess there's a first time for everything, isn't there? Ha.

I suppose it's true that I make a mistake generalizing in any sense -- "ALL" this or "ALL" that. But do I think that many, many members of the visible (i.e., politically active) wing of Evangelical Christianity view themselves as martyrs? Absolutely. It's impossible to watch right-wing TV or listen to right-wing radio without hearing the narrative of Christianity "being under attack" and "Godless liberals trying to stamp out God." Maybe that's true in some circles, but to paint all liberals with that brush is the same mistake I make by painting all Evangelicals as I did. Fair enough, isn't it?

As far as your last point, for what it's worth I actually agree with you. I think all ideas should be welcomed, and I, myself, don't have a problem with someone speaking on Jesus. And why should I? But why should Christianity be given special deference, as if the rest of Americans don't matter? You want a morning prayer in school? I have no problem with that, but allow a Hail Mary, a Jewish prayer, a Muslim prayer, whatever equally. Otherwise, no dice. The hard left might not go for that idea, but the hard left is no better than the hard right. Extremists ruin it for everybody.
Resident questions Bible Club’s presence at open-house
Emdee
Sunday, August 19, 2012: 12:52 am
nobodyimportant said:
I have a theory. People who oppose Christian influences are very scared. Their hardened hearts turn the topic into an intellectual exercise, believing any number of false positions like:

1. there may be a God, but He has to be such a loving God that everyone will be alright if you don't do too many bad things and that there are many ways to experience Him;

2. there can't be a God, it just doesn't make sense;

3. all religions are the same, just mechanisms to make people feel better and control behavior.

Now, none of us will really know until we die. The true unbeliever thinks that's the end of it anyway, so there is no need to put the time and energy into believing. But as time draws near, the unbeliever becomes really scared. He thinks to himself, what if it is true?" But pride keeps him from accepting. The intellect can't accept it.

For those who have had bad experiences with "church", let me just remind you that, when you become a Christian, you don't become perfect. I've had many years of watching professed Christians acting anything but the part. I see the false teachers on TV like Joel Osteen, Benny Hinn, and a host of others, selling a brand of Christianity that is anything but.

But I have also experienced the love, support, care, and genuineness of Christian brothers and sisters that far outweighs any of the ugliness. We are human, and we screw up, but we are on a journey that should, if we are following His ways, making us more like Him every day. We'll never obtain that perfectness until we get to stand before Him.

I'd be scared too, if I denied the truth. Mr. Milligan, do you really want to teach your child to be afraid too?


"People who oppose Christian influences are very scared."

In Psychology that's called projecting. In reality, Evangelical Christians are some of the most frightened creatures there are and they fancy themselves martyrs to boot. They create this grand melodrama out of thin air wherein they are the Chosen Few (tm), the last holdouts fighting in a war against all that is dark and unholy. The spiritual equivalent of "Days of Our Lives". "Persecution!" they shriek, while simultaneously making up three-quarters of the nation (the percentage that self-identifies as Christian).

If that doesn't sound like mental illness to you, you're hopeless.

And the hypocrisy is sickening. Each and every commenter on this board saying, "What's the big deal about walking around the table?" would move heaven and earth (pun intended) to prevent their child from learning anything other than what they're (the parents) raising them (the children) to believe.

And if you can't admit that you're being willfully blind.
Resident questions Bible Club’s presence at open-house
Emdee
Saturday, August 18, 2012: 5:24 pm
MarkMcDaniel said:
Mr.Milligan,
it is really important to me to teach my daughter how to think and not what to think
Now that you have taught your daughter how to think can you also teach her how to walk by a table that you object too. If your are not teaching her what to think then why are you denying her this information? (hypocrite,control freak?) Sounds like you are only providing her with information you approve of and not letting her do any independent thinking. Maybe you would also consider teaching her about other peoples rights and let her know that they have rights also not just your daughter. These are the moments I feel sorry for school administrators and there are not many of those moments. Lets all pray for this guys kids doesn't sound like there's going to be to much laughter in this household.


How nauseatingly hypocritical. "Sounds like you are only providing her with information you approve of and not letting her do any independent thinking." This is EXACTLY what social liberals have been saying for decades. Right now Kentucky is trying to get its own version of the SAT/ACT test that excludes any questions on Darwinian evolution because -- gasp! -- it conflicts with some parents' religious beliefs. If science conflicts with your beliefs, you'd probably reevaluate at some point along the way. Gravity is a "theory" -- as scientifically defined -- too; wanna be the first to say you "don't believe" in it?

Ledge said:
I agree, walk around the table dude. Cheesh. Don't you think those officials had better things to do? If it had been a Islamic table would you have cried foul? Or an alternate lifestyle table???


If he didn't, I bet you sure would have.

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