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concerned parent
Thursday, February 18, 2010: 10:32 am
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Maybe he should take a pay cut...maybe if government stepped away from it a little then we all would be better off. they keep dicating what the schools must do maybe if we did not have to do istep and istep prep, and have mandotory background checks on everyone to volunteer in the building maybe that money could go to truely educating our kids.
Danny Stewart
Thursday, February 18, 2010: 10:46 am
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I'm beginning to get the feeling that Reality check is Oakley getting on here again.
Lassiter
Thursday, February 18, 2010: 11:43 am
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Danny Stewart said:
I'm beginning to get the feeling that Reality check is Oakley getting on here again.


Annie's been gone a long time :)
A Hoosier
Thursday, February 18, 2010: 2:16 pm
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Concerned Parent, I appreciate what you are saying. However, I must disagree with the mandate requiring background checks on everyone involved with the children. When I managed nursing homes, we too, were required to do background checks on every employee and volunteer. I can honestly say it saved me alot of heartache. The last thing we need is a murder, rapist, drug dealer, or sexual offender working in our school corporations. Trust me, it's worth the ten bucks.
Liberty
Thursday, February 18, 2010: 3:33 pm
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I don't want to beat a dead horse but Reading Concerned's comment made me think that we can learn all we could ever want to on what happens when the Government tries to run anything. The teachers can tell you what that has meant to their ability to be effective in the class room. That's why I am so adamant about pursuing Non-government run schools. Anything the government ties to manage is in a state of crap.

Our founders designed the way government works and they didn't design it to be able to run a company efficiently. I for one think this was their guarantee that the governments intrusion into our lives and business could never be accomplished because they wouldn't be able to compete with the free enterprise.

The Unions control politicians and that's why unionized government employees are so programed by their unions to hate privatization. They rightfully fear the private run companies that can't be pushed around or extorted for excessive pay and benefits like they can blindly squeeze the taxpayers for.The union controls politicians who pass laws to force government bodies to do what ever the new political fear of the day calls for. In education the new thing is to consider homosexuality as normal instead of a sexual perversion that it is. Now the schools are mandated to do certain things just because of a new fade of political correctness. Of coarse there is now way somebody can prove their homosexual so I call that special rights by arbitrary demand. Its a behavior. Now what are the teachers to do 10 years from now when the pedifiles continue to when in court and in the world of plublic opinions. Yep it going on now and when the first Homosexual or pedifile gets elected to higer office then that too will be forced on the government schools because that how it works. Politians run the schools not the educator. Hum.. but the educators hire a union to run the politians who run the schools the teachers who hired the union complain about ....OOOH wait... this is making me dizzy.

If enough parent raised enough cane and started a political action group to only elect politicians who would force teachers to allow boom boxes blaring in the class room then guess what folks. You got it. All these things that politiaians hamper the system with cost big and thats why it cost so much more per child to educate them in the GEC vs Private schools. Even with Special needs.

Most teachers see this and feel trapped. For the one or two conservative educators out there you understand fully what it means to not be with the program. The vile retaliation from many union thugs can make it hard to go to work for some. Yep they know what I'm talking about.

I say all that to say this. I hope the reasonable can take lessons from the school system and consider what it would be like if they also took over our health care. We will find doctors coming on here saying the same things the teachers are saying because they will experience the same things. Except the loss's wouldn't be in our education.

The wiser poeple of this country see and understand these things. And I hope we all can thank the lord they are in the majority.

It's interesting to sit and talk about things with police officers and firemen in private. They sound a whole lot like teachers.
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Liberty
Thursday, February 18, 2010: 4:36 pm
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HUM... The bosses have spoken.

Should teacher pay be frozen or cut to help schools make budget?

Yes, freezing/cutting pay might save a few other teachers' jobs. 36%


Yes, everyone is cutting to make ends meet these days. 30%


No, teachers have an important job and deserve every penny. 21%

No, they already don't make enough money. 12%


This is not a scientific poll

Looks very much like the vote on the Mooresville School buildings last year. 2/3 to 1/3.

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Ratcatcher
Thursday, February 18, 2010: 6:47 pm
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Liberty said:
This is not a scientific poll. Looks very much like the vote on the Mooresville School buildings last year. 2/3 to 1/3. .

LOL. How right you Mr. Liberty. Did you know that the Facebook people told all the kiddies to long on to the website and vote YES. We see where that got them in the real vote, huh. This poll won't be any different. The teachers will tell all their students tomorrow to log on and vote NO this time.
Reality Check
Thursday, February 18, 2010: 8:22 pm
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I wish Anthem and WellPoint would run our schools, Liberty. They would demand the same high level of teaching and raise YOUR contribtuion 36% to pay them!!!!! Great example! Now you're thinking my way budro!
Reality Check
Thursday, February 18, 2010: 8:51 pm
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Liberty said:
I don't want to beat a dead horse but Reading Concerned's comment made me think that we can learn all we could ever want to on what happens when the Government tries to run anything. The teachers can tell you what that has meant to their ability to be effective in the class room. That's why I am so adamant about pursuing Non-government run schools. Anything the government ties to manage is in a state of crap. Our founders designed the way government works and they didn't design it to be able to run a company efficiently. I for one think this was their guarantee that the governments intrusion into our lives and business could never be accomplished because they wouldn't be able to compete with the free enterprise. The Unions control politicians and that's why unionized government employees are so programed by their unions to hate privatization. They rightfully fear the private run companies that can't be pushed around or extorted for excessive pay and benefits like they can blindly squeeze the taxpayers for.The union controls politicians who pass laws to force government bodies to do what ever the new political fear of the day calls for. In education the new thing is to consider homosexuality as normal instead of a sexual perversion that it is. Now the schools are mandated to do certain things just because of a new fade of political correctness. Of coarse there is now way somebody can prove their homosexual so I call that special rights by arbitrary demand. Its a behavior. Now what are the teachers to do 10 years from now when the pedifiles continue to when in court and in the world of plublic opinions. Yep it going on now and when the first Homosexual or pedifile gets elected to higer office then that too will be forced on the government schools because that how it works. Politians run the schools not the educator. Hum.. but the educators hire a union to run the politians who run the schools the teachers who hired the union complain about ....OOOH wait... this is making me dizzy.If enough parent raised enough cane and started a political action group to only elect politicians who would force teachers to allow boom boxes blaring in the class room then guess what folks. You got it. All these things that politiaians hamper the system with cost big and thats why it cost so much more per child to educate them in the GEC vs Private schools. Even with Special needs. Most teachers see this and feel trapped. For the one or two conservative educators out there you understand fully what it means to not be with the program. The vile retaliation from many union thugs can make it hard to go to work for some. Yep they know what I'm talking about.I say all that to say this. I hope the reasonable can take lessons from the school system and consider what it would be like if they also took over our health care. We will find doctors coming on here saying the same things the teachers are saying because they will experience the same things. Except the loss's wouldn't be in our education. The wiser poeple of this country see and understand these things. And I hope we all can thank the lord they are in the majority.It's interesting to sit and talk about things with police officers and firemen in private. They sound a whole lot like teachers..
Reality Check
Thursday, February 18, 2010: 8:53 pm
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Did you take a bunch of medication before you unleashed this grammatical nightmare of a nugget?
A Hoosier
Thursday, February 18, 2010: 9:53 pm
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Breathe, Sugar, breathe.
Liberty
Thursday, February 18, 2010: 10:04 pm
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Like my parents I'm a
Product of GEC
Assembled by a Union Teacher

Now use your brain , sit back and read what you wrote...... embarrassing isn't it.

You just insulted yourself. I did fine, your the one that failed.

Disgruntled ex-employees are such a nuisance.

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