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Wednesday, March 24, 2010: 7:35 am
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|But what does his contract say?|
He might be like a professional athlete that gets benched but he still gets paid depending on what is written. I don't want him fired if he gets to sit at home and draw a check. I say keep him on board and make him serve out his contract chaperoning proms and teaching alcohol awareness classes and earn that pay and do something in the eyes of the kids to try to make up for this.
Wednesday, March 24, 2010: 8:35 am
More from mcbacker
|John Q. you need to quit guessing at everything and get some facts before you spout off. For your information, Mr. Furniss lives in Foxcliff and so would be taking Blue Bluff to get to Foxcliff from Hwy 67. No big secret there. As far as student vs. grown man, I thought it was still legal for grown men and women to have a drink in a restaurant/bar but didn't realize that students/teenagers could get served in that kind of establishment or in a liquor store for that matter. That is the difference. Yes, I agree they both made bad judgments in the student drinking and showing up to the prom in that manner and Mr. Furniss driving in that manner. I think the difference between myself and some of you quick to judge others is that I let God pass his judgment instead of me.|
Wednesday, March 24, 2010: 8:41 am
More from mcbacker
|Liberty what is your beef with teachers/educators? I would sure like to know what you do for a living. Why have you been to so many teacher's parties? Sounds funny to me. Quit generalizing about everyone that is in that profession . . . it makes you sound like someone that either wants to be or never could be. Am I far off base???|
Wednesday, March 24, 2010: 9:00 am
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|Whatever the outcome of this case, there are several red flags that hopefully the school board and his family take into consideration. These red flags suggest, but don't necessarily prove, that the big issue is not driving drunk, it is alcholism. Consider:|
1. There was no mention of any passenger. After bar-hopping on a Saturday night, a lack of judgment comes into play. An otherwise sober man doesn't drink enough to reach 0.16 BAC and then believes he is ok to drive home alone. It is more likely that he thought he could drive in his intoxicated condition because he has, many times before.
2. When stopped, he lied (minimized) about his drinking. "One glass of wine". This is classic.
An alcoholic will use this defense technique to get by a moment of confrontation.
3. He lied again when he explained his drunkeness with "medications" and now three glasses of wine. The medications may provide a synergistic effect on the state of inebriation, but they don't impact the blood alcohol level. A man of his size had to drink considerably to reach that level. And even at that level, where the "novice drinker" would be falling down drunk, he was still able to drive, converse, and think clearly enough to lie. This suggests a level of tolerance for drug alcohol.
I am not diagnosing or labeling alcoholic here. What I am saying is that there is sufficient evidence to at least support the possibility that he could have a serious drinking problem.
None of this should mitigate against the prosecution of the case. If it were not for arrests of this kind, many alcoholics would continue their addictive behavior for longer periods of time, putting themselves and others in more serious danger. Sometimes you have to hit the mule between the eyes with a 2 X 4 to get his attention.
Wednesday, March 24, 2010: 10:36 am
More from Danny Stewart
Nobody Important, on this one, you and I are in complete agreement.
Wednesday, March 24, 2010: 11:57 am
More from sunshine
|So, mcbacker - are you suggesting that we just sit around being complacent & let our children be exposed to the bad example that this man keeping his job will set and consider it enough that one day he will die and God will then judge him? PUHHHHLEEEEEZ! We the living have laws established for a reason and a juducial system designed to handle those of us who NEED to be judged for breaking those laws prior to dying. And God also gave us brains so that we can FORM OPINIONS on our own free will! The BIG difference between us & you is that we are using our brains in an attempt to see to it that what we feel is the best possible moral decision for our children is the one that is made! This is clearly already beyond anyone judging him too quickly or unfairly since he has issued a statement/apology in which he has already admitted fault on his own free will.|
Wednesday, March 24, 2010: 12:23 pm
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|Sunshine I'm assuming you have made your feelings known already to someone on the school board? In fact, it would do you more good than talking about it here on this site. I just hope you feel the same way if you or someone in your family or circle of friends get into the same or similar situation. Also, just to clarify something for you, Mr. Furniss does not make ALL the decisions on what happens in our school system. That is why we have two Asst. Supers and a school board.|
Wednesday, March 24, 2010: 12:59 pm
More from sunshine
|They are well aware of my opinion(s), as was I of the existence/involvement/roles of the Asst. Superintendents.|
Wednesday, March 24, 2010: 1:52 pm
More from Liberty
MC, BEEF ? I see your first comment was on February 11 and out of the 9 TTL 66% were on working school matters which leads me to assume you are a teacher ?
If you have been around over the last three years you would know I love teachers.
My beef is the destructive teachers unions and those who support their efforts.
In my post I wrote about good teachers with the required character " we know who they are and we honor them "
As far as Party's ? What does it matter what I do or what party I've been at because the facts are the facts. Yes, for me one retirement party in Morgan county. But I have 7 teachers in the family and work with ~ 20 spouses of teachers around the mid-west. My life mentoring and teaching experience with 7-12 is first hand. Having studied the effect of the government ed compounds ( GEC) on young vs the effect of private and home school for ~ 20 years I am at the point in my life that I have to campaign for what is right for the children and exspose the damage to sociality the GEC's have caused. I will not go back and post all what I have written over the last 3 years but I will say I bog on that taxpaers site. Morgancountytaxpayer.org and you can dig back through past blog post and understand where I'm coming from. Most are not proof read as you will find. I can tell you that, I love teachers who place their first and only importance on the student, proven by,their acceptance of their leadership roll model roll, their use of language, actions ( on and off the job), and by what they financially support.
I can also tell you I am campaigning for the school boards replacement of the GEC's with a district wide charter school system funded on performance. My guess all the good teachers will still have jobs and the bad ones won't. You surly aggree with that. I rank quality in education and development in this order 0f offering. 1. Home School, 2. Private School, 3. Privately Run Charter Schools. I was unable to rank GEC's.
I do understand because of the information flow coming from the unions while all your time being with children and teachers, a lot of " educators" are unable to be objective stuck inside the forest so to speak. Over the years when I heard GEC teachers talk about their job I hear them complaining about 80% of the time. Even the good one ( you know who you are ) complain. Most of the complains are about the GEC system and how it effects their ability to teach. This isn't the teachers fault but the system. The government foundational structure structure prevents it from ever making it over the 50% level of success in running a organization or enterprise. The constitution would have to be drastically changed for this to change so, I don't fault the teachers who go to teach in the GEC's every day in-spite of the GEC system. I challenge those who support the system that is so detrimental to our youth.
Now this is a good example of those who place the value of one of their own above the moral health of the communities children.
The law has NO bearing on what is right and what it wrong, good or bad. When drugs are used there is no difference between legal and illegal. When language is used there is no difference between legal and illegal. When you inhale smoke there is no difference between legal and illegal. When it comes to taking the life of a baby there is no difference between legal and illegal. When it comes to teaching a 11 year old how to have sex with 11 year olds there is no difference between legal and illegal. Children can only absorb what's right from wrong by what is morally right and what if morally wrong. PERIOD. When a child is told that something bad at 11 is legal at 18 or something ok 11 is bad at 18 throws a short circuit into their whole world of reasoning and moral values. After all laws are obeyed and laws are disobeyed not from fear of reprisals by by the moral acceptance of their value.
You asked. Sorry for the to much info thing but now you know where I'm coming from.
Hey MC, can you point out anything in the post of question below you disagree with as a community paid teacher ?
Wednesday, March 24, 2010: 2:20 pm
More from mcbacker
|Sorry Liberty you are wrong . . . I'm not a teacher at all. But I do have children in school. The only thing about home schooling is who is doing it. I've met some people who claim to home school that have truly no business or education to do it. They also only teach the kids when their schedule allows it which isn't on a routine or everyday for that matter. So I'm not behind home schooling 100%. I'm sure there are some parents who do a very good job with it but in my experience I have not seen it. I also believe MOST children learn their behavior from their parents and not from their teachers. How many kids see their teachers outside of a school environment. I can say for sure that I never witnessed a teacher of mine drinking, smoking or cussing during school hours and I didn't see them anywhere outside of school. I'm not saying they may not have done one or all of those things but I didnt' see it happen and so was not influenced by them. Though not a teacher, I do have friends and family that are and think they do a wonderful job with not great pay and with having to put up with some parents of some students that are difficult to say the least! So I applaud them for what they do. By the way, I'm curious where you received your education . . . home school, private or public.|
Wednesday, March 24, 2010: 2:24 pm
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|Sunshine . . . just curious . . . but did you give your name when contacting these school board members? So many people that call and complain hide behind others or fictious names. Just wondering.|
Wednesday, March 24, 2010: 4:06 pm
More from Liberty
Well you know what they say about the word Assume. You just seemed to have some inside knowledge and now I know from where. MC, I like most received a GEC education in my younger years. But like most my real education came since then.
Times have changed and if it wasn't for my personal interest in taking a life study of children education from an outside and inside look I would even begin to have started my mission because I wouldn't have been able to put the pieces together otherwise. I know pay for both private and home schooling of my grandchildren. I can say this about homeschooling. It's the most mis understood for of child education their is. My years of working with youth involved mostly GEC education some private and a few home schooled. It was interesting to watch the interaction between the three. As I got into the meet of the differences between the three I was able to start making more since of the cause and effect in those different settings. My own children were also GEC educated or? and I payed close attention to the damages that the system had on children and thus sparked my intense interest to find out why. That was many years ago now and since that time I formed honest convictions that synced with the facts that was being established through my search for the truth of the matter. To understand homeschool you almost have to get involved or got to a homeschool convention or gathering where there are seminars and speakers and a verity of parents their who have already been through the experience. It's altogether different form what the government model is. Home Schooling is more of a living education that is accomplished by incorporating educational skills and knowledge with life application. That is how they will use it right ? Each child learns differently from the next so the family educator focuses on the most effective method of learning for that child. As a parent that becomes natural. But the results are far and above superior when compared to the government class room system were they teach one way and the odds of that being the most effective way your child learns are about 5%. So our children spends half of their time trying to reprogram their brain to adapt to someone else's scheme of understanding and then can only apply it to themselves with a reduced outcome. This is why most Home-schooled children are a couple of grades ahead of the GEC's and ACT scores are so much higher than GEC school avg.
A teacher trained by a university learns how to educate children the by the GEC system. Most learn the curriculum on the job. The unique qualifications of the home educator can't be trained making their profession the most expertise by nature.
By the end of the home educator carrier the will have succeed in mastering 12 grades and All the subjects vs the government system that may net 1 or 2 grades and 1 or two subjects. Now, when somebody comes up to me and says I know somebody that home-schooled and they are messed up or they act different than the other children etc etc. I first will say that Yes, you will find some parents that will fail and don't care to do things the child centric way. But that maybe less than 5% failure. But I will then show you 30-50% failure in the GEC system.
Many universities will seek out home educated children for their superior scholastic aptitude and emotional maturity. When I hear someone say that they send their children to GECS so they will receive proper "socialization skills" I ask from whom ? Children who don't have any ? Would you want your paperboy doing brain surgery on you ? NO. Home educators will find " appropriate" forms of socializing with their child's peers like gym day at the YMCA or church or sport leagues that have a positive influence. But, most of the child's time is with the family and they learn how to properly socialize from the well socialized parent. That is why home-school children seem different. They as a whole are much better behaved and integrate into adult life much quicker than I did because they where trained from birth how to interact and communicate with adults and not to act like scrambled children like I was. I have seen and studied these differences in a group involvement and I have to say home-schoolers were ready to take on adulthood at a younger age was evident and they also were able to communicate with adults effectively at a much younger age. Since our job as a parent is to prepare our children to be adults and not children having inexperienced children teach then socialization skills doesn't hold water, but is only propagandized by the teachers unions and those who support them. Job security is the main focus of that group.
Can a child be successful in a GEC. Yes. But with a 60-70 percent graduation rate not very often. Are there smart children who can adapt and learn easily that can survive ? Yes In both cases I am speaking academically. On a social, moral, civic way. not a very large percentage.
All of the above are based on averages and generalizations for thats the only way a systems success could be evaluated as a whole. But if you are interested in don't let reaction of so many negitive people sway your quest. The vast magority will slam anything that they haven't chosen for their children simple because of guilt. Most of the time they don't even relize that. Sounds like you are a good mom and I mean not dishonor to what you feel is best. Just sharing some other choices.
Sorry for the rant.
Not proof read.
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