Two charged with drug possession
read more recent story comments Reader comments| sunshine Monday, March 29, 2010: 12:09 pm More from sunshine  | I hope they are in prison for a very very very long time! GRRRRRR!!!!!!! |
| Pinky Monday, March 29, 2010: 2:24 pm More from Pinky | Why? Make the drugs legal and allow for survival of the fittest. If people want to commit suicide by drugs, then let them. The government is always trying to protect idiots from themselves. And we end up footing the bill!! |
| Liberty Monday, March 29, 2010: 2:33 pm More from Liberty | Drugs, including the King drug alcohol affect society more than it does those who use them. This is not about personal destruction but rather all the screwed up offspring that they turn out which perpetuates the community destruction. Of coarse those who participate in this aren't considering their children and wouldn't think of their futures to begin with. |
| nobodyimportant Monday, March 29, 2010: 4:05 pm More from nobodyimportant | Pinky, it is a great mistake to consider the problems people have with alcohol and other drugs to be a personal one, only affecting the user. If I could sum it up, it would be this way......the greatest tragedies in the life of alcohol and other drug abusers are not the legal scrapes, the medical/health consequences, or the financial ruin, it is the relationships destroyed. An abuser in the family makes the entire family sick and often dysfunctional. Too many children are being raised by an ex or by grandparents because the drugs became more important than a spouse and/or children. Just look at drug alcohol and drug nicotene. Do you want to multiply the problems tenfold by adding a host of other drugs to the "legal" list? |
| A Hoosier Monday, March 29, 2010: 5:54 pm More from A Hoosier | Amsterdam, which has legalized drugs, does not have a methamphetamine problem. In fact, most of the drug users in Amsterdam don't even know what it is. American citizens manufactured “Crack” in the US because other drugs were illegal and "crack" can be made from common household products. "Crack" is extremely addictive and detrimental to the user. Amsterdam did not have a high crime rate from its citizens; they have acquired immigrants who are hiding in Amsterdam with criminal backgrounds. Drugs are controlled in Amsterdam by quantity. You can only own so much. I know plenty of people who grew up in smoking households who have never smoked. I know plenty of people who have grown up in smoking households that smoke. I, also, know people who grew up in alcohol-infested households who would rather be shot than drink alcohol. I know people who grew up without alcohol in their households, like mine, and who drink (like me). I look at these addictions like this, these are personal choices and no matter if you make them legal or illegal, people will make their own choices. Another thing that I know is that the war on drugs is not working. In fact, it is becoming a huge violation of the rights of citizens. Illegal search and seizure, for one. I have to agree with Pinky on this one. Legalize it, control consumption and collect the tax dollar. Instead of spending the millions and millions of dollars on repeat offenders, who could be doing life (three strikes your out). But that’s not going to happen. Where would the money that the lawyers, judges, cops, prisons, jails, correction officers, probation officers and others come from if not from drugs and the war on drugs? This is big business, the war on drugs, and the taxpayer is footing the biggest part of it. (As usual.) In the 1930's, the government made the weed, marijuana, illegal by making all kinds of false statements about the weed. I can't remember how many pounds of marijuana are currently shipped to the US-legally, but it's significant. Indiana was a large grower of marijuana, back in the day; all kinds of things can be made from hemp. These are jobs, jobs that could be started immediately. Marijuana is one of the biggest cash crops grown in America, if not the biggest. I would also like to mention, that crime rates would go down. How many people are being killed for legal products, like alcohol? Trying to control the behavior of others is basically impossible, but you can keep trying if you want. You want to change someone's behavior change the way they think. It's your best bet. Educate, educate, educate. Smoking is not bad for you if you do it in moderation; say 1 or 2 cigarettes a day. Drinking is not bad for you if you do it in moderation; say 1 or 2 drinks per week. Drugs are probably the same way. People need to have control when using substances. Substances only become a problem when there is no control. Peace. |
| nobodyimportant Monday, March 29, 2010: 9:05 pm More from nobodyimportant | Hoosier, I could not disagree more, but I understand the argument. The Amsterdam experiment is hardly the model social experiment with legalizing drugs. Only a few "soft" drugs are legalized and even there, fairly rigidy confined. It has become a tourist "mecca" for the enlightened. I don't know if the issue really is "controlling behavior". None of us have total liberty. To have that, we would have anarchy. It is about defining and limiting liberty within the context of societal benefit & harm. None of us would want to drive on our streets and highways if there were no traffic laws. I would argue about the effectiveness of anti-drug laws. Few people realize the extent to which prohibition worked in our country. The popular notion is that it was a failed law and it was overturned because the general public wasn't really supportive. More accurately, our alcohol problems were never lower than in that period, especially the later years under prohibition. Of course, everyone identifies with the lawlessness that glamorized that era. That is a fact, brought on primarily because the governments no longer had alsohol taxes, were cash-strapped, and chose to put very little of it into law enforcement. The law was repealed by FDR's government which saw the alcohol beverage taxes as a primary source of funds for the New Deal programs that would eventually lift the country out of an economic depression. It was an financial decision, pure and simple. The price we have paid is that almost immediately following repeal, we began a steady increase in the level of alcohol-related problems that peaked in the 70's before it leveled off. When looking at data on consumption, health-related effects, and things like driving while drunk, prohibition worked better than anything before and since. We should learn from that lesson and not elevate the risks to consumers and the general public alike. I don't know where you got information about the safety of smoking just a few cigarettes a day, but that runs counter to everything I have heard about or read. I cannot imagine drawing into one's lungs that assortment of chemicals and being safe, at any level! |
| A Hoosier Monday, March 29, 2010: 9:15 pm More from A Hoosier | NI, I love these debates as much as I enjoy the ones when we agree. Here's another point I forgot when I posted earlier. How many drug dealers would be out of business if drugs were legalized? All of them. Cocaine is legal in Amsterdam along with ecstacy. Not just marijuana. |
| nobodyimportant Monday, March 29, 2010: 10:17 pm More from nobodyimportant | Hoosier. Drug dealing shifts from the back alleys to the drugstore and price probably comes down. The result? Increased use, particulary by youth. Researchers have known for decades that the extent of drug use is directly related to price and availablility. |
| Liberty Monday, March 29, 2010: 11:00 pm More from Liberty | Hoosier, Just curious. Do you actually personally know anyone that's addicted to Cocaine, ecstacy and marijuana ? |
| Liberty Monday, March 29, 2010: 11:28 pm More from Liberty |
The officials in Amsterdam may not feel the way you do. CLICK HERE for : " Changing Patterns in Social Fabric Test Netherlands' Liberal Identity " Read the whole article. I'm just saying I've known people screwed up crazed and violent on these drugs. I've watched their lives crash and their families destroyed with broken hearted children. Not a one of their conditions would be any different standing under the street sign at MaryJane Ave & Crack St in Amsterdam than it would be here on main street in Martinsville. We have to use common sense and not trust the pro druggie websites for information that doesn't make sense. My rule of thumb is this , if it doesn't make sense then it probably is made up. And sense more people make things up than tell the truth this day and age I'm pretty safe in sticking with that rule. Don't worry Hoosier, well keep an eye on you. Your safe. Oh yah......Put down that roach clip. ssssssssssssiiiiiiiiiup....pleesssz. |
| MyThoughts Tuesday, March 30, 2010: 7:45 am More from MyThoughts | Prohibition did not work in the 30's and it is not working today. Legalize it, tax it and regulate it! I'm only speaking to unaltered substances, not the chemically enhanced. It is easier for our kids to get marijuana than it is alcohol! Why? Because the government regulates alcohol. The only reason marijuana is considered a "gateway" drug, is because it has to be purchased from drug dealers. Think about it this way, a drug dealer would rather sell you something addictive, like crack or meth before he would want to sell you marijuana. The dealer himself/herself is the "gateway", not the drug! I don't know how much revenue is realized from the other "Sin" taxes, but add Marijuana to the Sin Tax and I am sure it would be in the Millions per state (and I am being conservative)! Man made alcohol, God made marijuana! Who do YOU trust? LEAP |
| A Hoosier Tuesday, March 30, 2010: 9:04 am More from A Hoosier | Liberty, thanks for the giggles. “mary jane ave. and crack st.” loved it. No, I do not know anyone addicted to cocaine, ecstasy or marijuana. I read your article. This group doesn’t watch TV either. I still vote for legalization, control and less crime. Maybe our young black people will live longer if he put drug dealers out of business. |
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