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Martinsville police officers suspended for alleged use of Taser on boy

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ConcernedCitizen
Thursday, April 1, 2010: 5:35 pm
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RevCarter put it well. We DO NOT KNOW all of the circumstances surrounding this incident. And to pretend we know how Chief Davis and Mayor Deckard will handle the situation is just wrong. I absolutely do not condone what these officers did to a troubled 10-year-old. (Yes, he must be troubled to be causing such problems.) However, I do not believe it is fair for others to jump to judgment and appropriate punishment without having all of the facts.

I applaud Deckard and Davis for their handling of the news conference this morning and for giving everyone involved a fair chance. I will patiently wait for the results of their and the sheriff's office investigations. If I do not agree with the way they handle it, I will then take POSITIVE action to make changes in our administration. Sitting back and calling people names and passing judgment never solves anything. Working to improve our community and to get the right community leaders in place is the only answer.

My heart and prayers go out to all of the individuals involved in this incident. Regardless of the resolution here on earth, we all will have to answer to a higher power for our actions as well as for our words.
Liberty
Thursday, April 1, 2010: 5:39 pm
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guest88 said:
Ok Liberty you are talking about the "victims" that Bill Jennings has put in jail how many are there really? Does that mean everybody that is sitting in the Morgan County Jail are all victims also not real criminals? Then that would count for every police officer who has arrested someone and put them in jail. Sounds to me like you have either had a run in with him yourself and or know someone who has. You can ask people in town that actually "know" him and you will find he is a respected police officer and a fair one. As far as him being a loose cannon I would like to know exactly what that entails. Yes several years ago he was "accused" of a crime he did not commit and was found innocent but I'm sure you know the whole reason behind that to. Until you have actually been a police officer and walk in their shoes everyday and put up with what they have to put up with you shouldn't judge. I believe everyone is "innocent" until proven guilty and with these cops being fathers themselves I'm sure they did what they had to do to get the situation under control before the child either hurt himself or others. Better yet how would you have handled it yourself? Not many people are talking about the daycare and why they allowed this child to keep coming back knowing the problems he had. Obviously the workers felt they and the the other kids in the daycare were in possible danger other wise why would the cops be called? I think we need to hear the "whole" story before judging these police officers on the actions they took.


First off Guest88, I take it as a complement that you would read something I pecked and then go through the hassle of signing up for this sight. ( HEY BRIAN I'M STILL WAITING ON MY COMMISSION CHECK BUDDY. ) sorry. The victims aren't the those he may have arrested properly without beating anyone up or / I'll just say this. He's innocent until proven guilty or till he confesses which he already has done so he is no longer innocent. To punch, back-hand or front-hand a little 10 year old in the mouth hard enough to knock him up against the house and then use a potentially lethal weapon on him convicts him as a person. No court room decide what is right from wrong. They can only be unanimous on their punishment. It's the publics responsibility to make up their own mind by the admitted evidence given them by the criminal. Bill Jennings admitted to all this in his written and filed police report.

You asked :
As far as him being a loose cannon I would like to know exactly what that entails
I say :
Jennings “smacked the juvenile in the mouth causing the juvenile to hit the back of his head against the house.”


You asked
Better yet how would you have handled it yourself?
I answer , Lock the child in a room call the parent to come and get him immediately.DUH

You stated
Not many people are talking about the daycare and why they allowed this child to keep coming back knowing the problems he had.

I copy from my post you sighed up to answer ,The Day Care is gilty of neglect and also guilty of sentencing a child in their care to adult crimminal punishment without the concent of the parents.

What parent in their right mind would ever leave their child with this day care again with incompetent adults who haven't a clue how to handle a child and will call the police on them if they act up. When an adult treats a child that is acting up as a criminal somebody needs to take the adult responsible out back and beat them they know how that little 10 year old feels.



Look, Here is the factual summery. Incompetent and untrained ( obvious) Day Care has problem with a young 10 year old child that they new about but yet decided to put the other children the babysit at risk by continuing to babysit him. ( easily suable.) Not knowing how to control children they asked two police officers to do a side job and come over and treat a little 10 year old like a hardened criminal. This was not an act of two police officers trying to subdue a possible criminal. There was no crime committed. This child wasn't even taken into juvenile or the police department, no charges or even taking him to his parents. So the hit in the face, knocking the little boys head into the house and the electrocution from a potentially lethal weapon was all just two thugs in police uniforms while on duty helping out what appears to be and un-licenses ( assumption due to unqualified workers) babysitter illegally punish and torcher ( Taser is classified as torcher by us government) a child they had no business with. Thats the factual summery. The use of a taser by a government official as reprimand on anybody violates the human and civil rights of any American citizen. If we can't do it to muslims that sluaghter 1000's of Americans you can't do it to little children.

I say the federal government should charge both of these free lance thugs in uniforms with federal civil rights charges in this torcher case.

Now as fare as the parents who sent their child to this place to begin with........well you really can't hold them responsible or you would have to arrest every one of you who sends your child to the GEC's everyday. We taxpayers can't afford that big of a jail.
Liberty
Thursday, April 1, 2010: 5:42 pm
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Sorry for the un-proofed post guest88
Q Siren
Thursday, April 1, 2010: 6:18 pm
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Did they ever think to call the fire department or Rural/Metro? The paramedics could have given him medicine to subdue him. It is even sprayed up the nose so you don't have to traumatize him more, or get someone stuck with a needle, during the uncontrolled fight. Blamkets, sheets, coats. Wrap him and lay him on the ground. But to slap and tase him? Unbelievable!! So many non-lethal, non-violent options and not one was taken advantage of. And yes.......taser hurt like HECK!!!!!
Liberty
Thursday, April 1, 2010: 6:36 pm
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Opp's I was wrong, Looks like the daycare can't use ignorance as a defense. The photo shows a sign that says they are licensed.
theotherside
Thursday, April 1, 2010: 7:57 pm
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i'm not exactly coming to the officers defense, but sometimes 10 yr old kids are not like my 10 yr old kid or some of yours!!! the daycare obviously knew the strength and capability of this "kid" or the police wouldn't have been called. i've seen stories where ten yr old kids kill people. i'd hate to think my kids were at this daycare and something like that happen!!!!! officers are equipped with these weapons to protect themselves from harm be it a ten year old or a 90 yr old. maybe the daycare needs investigated as well for allowing a dangerous kid among others daily. it could have been a lot worse for another family expecting their kid to be safe while they are out working to provide for them.
Wilbur
Thursday, April 1, 2010: 10:10 pm
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We'll call Rogers Gravel pit.....we're gonna need more stones.....


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I am watching you
Thursday, April 1, 2010: 10:25 pm
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To theotherside, I like what you have to say. I have personally witnessed 10 year olds and older kids out of control. It's not pretty. While I don't agree with the kid being tasered, I do feel that for the child to say F-you to another person he should have his mouth smacked. Too many kids in this day and age are allowed to be completely disrespectful to adults and each other. What this 10 year old did was verbal abuse to an adult. And a 10 year old can be abusive just like an adult. At age 10 a child can know the difference between right and wrong. Of course if a 10 year old were to say that to a another kid he would be considered a bully. What's the difference between being a bully or being abusive? Both are forms of aggression. I guess what makes the difference is the age of the people involved.
As to the police officers involved, I don't believe the taser should have been used. As to Bill Jennings smacking the kid for what he said, bad judgement since the kid wasn't his child.
In the end I hope the whole story does come out concerning the daycare, the police officers and the child.
A Hoosier
Thursday, April 1, 2010: 11:36 pm
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It is extremely alarming to me that there are folks on this blog who are making the police officer(s) the victim here.

I also find it disturbing that you are looking for additional information. Like what? Like the child may have had a mental illness or developmental disability, is that you what you seek to justify the actions of these two officers?

The child swears at a police officer and that gives the officer the right to poke him in the teeth. Not in my world. These are public servants, not public disciplinarians.

There is nothing further, that I need to hear, that could possibly justify the actions of these over zealous authoritarians.
USCitizen
Friday, April 2, 2010: 8:27 am
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No doubt that child was out of control. I do not understand how two grown men could not have reasoned with or took down the young boy, and yes there are times this has to be done in a safe manner to keep people from hurting themselves or others. Paramedics should have been called to check this boy out due to the behaviour and the tasing. I feel like Jon Davis and Phil Deckard will thoroughly investigate this especially in light of it being all over the internet and national news. Another black eye for Martinsville.
Pinky
Friday, April 2, 2010: 10:59 am
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Nice to see that you've all got this whole thing figured out and believe, without any investigation at all, that these officers were wrong and should be fired. I'm glad my life isn't determined by public opinion and speculation. Fact is none of you were there and no one should be so quick to judge. I am inclined to side with the officers, however, without all the facts, it would be inappropriate to jump to conclusions. In their defense, they were called there. They were respondng to a volatile incident. I have seen children out of control and it's becoming more and more common. Parents do not discipline their children as they should. Children have no respect for anyone these days. Sometimes it is necessary to use force with children. And a smack on the mouth for cussing at an adult is absolutely appropriate. This namby pamby non-violence crap is allowing kids to become animals. A spanking is not violence. A slap on the face is not violence. It is well-deserved punishment. Put the fear back into the children and you WILL have better behaved children!
Liberty
Friday, April 2, 2010: 11:13 am
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Pinky, What everyone is using for information is the written confession of the officers. Not speculation. Let just say that you may think it's ok for law enforcement to hit 10 tear old children in the face hard enough to knock them up against a house. Are you also saying that they should use potentially deadly weapons and electrocute them also. As punishment ?
Because the officers said they wasn't taking the child in or charging him or even going to call his parents but this was punishment for his behavior, I ask this ?

Are you saying that you want our police force to administrate instant punishment to citizens on their own judgment without and investigation, arrest, trial by a jury, or even a second opinion ?
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