Good job PRIDE, bad job Arizona
read more recent story comments Reader comments| abathar Tuesday, April 27, 2010: 2:32 pm More from abathar  | ""that would make it a crime under state law to be in the U.S. illegally"" Okay, read that line you wrote carefully. What part of ILLEGAL do you not understand? Being here ILLEGALLY already IS a crime, or they wouldn't be referred to as ILLEGALS. Ever been to another country as a guest there? Last time I was in Scotland I was asked by an officer to see my papers when he heard me speak, we were both polite about it and he ended up sending me to a great pub I never would have found otherwise. I follow the laws of the nation that I'm in, I don't think its too much to ask to expect others to respect ours as well. |
| Jane Q Citizen Tuesday, April 27, 2010: 2:57 pm More from Jane Q Citizen | What part of ILLEGAL do you not understand? I totally support the governor of AZ putting steps into place to protect the LEGAL citizens of her state. How do you propose ferreting out ILLEGAL aliens if officials cannot ask for verification? And why should this just apply to Hispanics (by the way, my son tells me that Hispanic is a racist term). The US needs to send a clear message that if you want to come to our country use the legal channels or be deported. |
| lynn Tuesday, April 27, 2010: 4:24 pm More from lynn | I also support the Governor of AZ, Something had to be done. This has nothing to do with racism and it is wrong to say otherwise. We could not go to Mexico and stay there illegally.I'm all for people wanting a better life but it must be in a LEGALLY way..I hope Indiana passes the same law.. |
| Reality Check Tuesday, April 27, 2010: 8:17 pm More from Reality Check | EVERY citizen here whose ancestors are of European decent are immigrants - - ONLY Native Americans would claim the title. There needs to be reform. Going back in time with Nazi attempts don't do anything but make the problem worse. Make all who are here citizens. Make them get a green card and SS number and driver's license and Tax them. After that....DEA and border patrol will have full access to shoot the rest after that. There, is that a fair compromise? You cannot physically send 20 million people back. Back to where? Same issue here as 18th 19th 20th Century European immigrants and African Americans from 1500 - 1900: The argument then was send "them" all back. Send them back to where? People who will do anything to get here, to work, to provide, will go through some ramifications to become citizens if given the opportunity. Arizona shouldn't be blamed for making headlines: No one knows what to do and this a highly policitally charged issue. Leave it to John "I"m not a Maverick now" McCain to blame them for traffic deaths on Fox news. Once again, similar issue here: Who should take care of this? State government? Federal government? Same problems as pre-Civil War era USA. Hopefully, we won't have to have another Civil War over these issues. This country has to be able to solve problems and frankly the biggest problem we have here is two parties manipulating uneducated masses of society. Very scary possibilities here. |
| Wilbur Tuesday, April 27, 2010: 9:07 pm More from Wilbur | My Dearest Editorial Staff, It isn't about immigration, it's about illegal immigration. It is about our country accepting decent hard working people that want to come here and not just to make a better life for themselves but to contribute to their new home. Drug runners, murders, thieves and those like them do not belong here. NEVER have...don't think when my great,great,great relatives came here, there wasn't a background check. They have deported unwanted people since they opened the door to this great Nation. AS IT SHOULD BE. What about our children and grand children? You think 300 million new citizens is a good thing for our economy? Who's going to pay health care and unemployment for them? (like we're not now....yeah right) The immigration fairy? Or another socialist program?! . Yes, it's the land of the free....as long as we're paying. ..How long do you think that's going to last? And for all that is Holy and decent....quit making EVERYTHING racist ....everything ISN"T!!!! |
| A Hoosier Tuesday, April 27, 2010: 9:20 pm More from A Hoosier | Reality, two words-HELL NO! Wilbur, I am with you, as usual. I can't see the US sending all these folks back but you should can make it real hard for them to live here. No job, no money, no welfare, no free citizenship, no amnesty. So long-illegal immigrants. |
| Hugh Jorgan Wednesday, April 28, 2010: 12:36 am More from Hugh Jorgan | Well if there was ever a doubt that the headquarters of the Reporter-Times had moved to Bloomington this just sealed the deal? What a bunch of loons!!! I would love to get together with the final 3 customers that actually take this paper and form a mass exodus at the same time. My subscription runs out on May 14 and it's gonna take alot of convincing for me to renew and support this socialist-liberal mentality. You damn bleeding hearts are what got us into this mess to begin with. What's next?? Too many bank robbers to catch....let's make it legal and forgive all past offenders. Excuse me while I go take a blood-pressure pill......IDIOTS!!!! |
| Lassiter Wednesday, April 28, 2010: 1:25 am More from Lassiter | When my ancestors came here they were required to show paperwork before being allowed in the country. If not they had a sign placed on them that said WOP. They then were given opportunity to acquire papers. If they could not they were sent back. What is going on now is nothing like the 1800s. There was never an open-door policy to our borders for foreign nationals to come and go as they please. |
| lynn Wednesday, April 28, 2010: 8:02 am More from lynn |
Amen!! Love your comment |
| Bob Wednesday, April 28, 2010: 8:47 am More from Bob | You are bringing alot of things to the table that hasn`t happened yet. If I was Gov. of AZ I would tell the citizens to shoot them when they come across the border. That way we would get the right ones. |
| Mrs. A Wednesday, April 28, 2010: 9:29 am More from Mrs. A | "And it will cost billions of dollars to round up, arrest and then ship illegal immigrants back home." Just exactly how much do you think it will cost to provide housing, welfare, food, education and healthcare for those 13 million people? A lift back to their own country would be much cheaper in the long run. "That many new taxpayers could net America more than $50 billion a year in annual tax revenues." You seem to overlook the fact that illegal immigrants are not tax paying Americans! If tax revenues increase, it's only because the middle class are having to pay up even more (again!) in order to support these freeloaders. Just how long do you think we, the middle class, can sustain that kind of creative financing? Illegal immigrants are a major source for gangs, violent crime, drug smuggling, increased prison population, rising education, welfare and healthcare costs (I could go on). When are people going to stop playing the tired old race card and start using common sense? Someone needing help is one thing, but the freeloading has to STOP! YOU GO ARIZONA!!! LEGAL aliens welcome! |
| Liberty Wednesday, April 28, 2010: 10:28 am More from Liberty | I know this isn't PC but it is the truth. This nation along with the American cultural fabric have been torn apart by divisive groups like PRIDE. It won't be until we stop celebrating diversity ( dividing people up into sub American groups and celebrating that they are different than other American ) and start celebrating unity ( celebrating what Americans have in common ) that we will be able to become a strong nation again. This Idea of divide and concur a nation tactic is as old as war itself. The liberals started this back in the late 50's and early 60's when our communist enemy's infiltrated our college campuses to radicalize Americans against their government to stop the war against communist Vietnam. Yes America does the same thing in other countries as a common war strategy but the socialist have been slowly battling against the United States for over a century and not until the last couple of decades and through their use of devision by diversity have they been able to gain enough power to be a threat. Dividing and controlling is the method. To make one feel so different than others and convince them they are weak and they need someone to protect and help them is the goal. The now OWN those with the darkest skin and are after the lighter brown skin ones now. Just think, our nations first socialist President standing on the street corner demonizing a State for passing a law to enforce another law. This is the height of criminal corruption and it's operated out of our nations White House. If would shut down this PRIDE game perpetrated by those trying to divide this nation and Start a UNITY program to bring all into our American culture as equals that celebrates all thing in common, then and only then will we all become part of a Strong UNIFIED American only people again. The law in Arizona says that people can't be stopped or checked because of their skin shade. They will only be checked if they are being stopped or arrested for committing other crimes. At that point if there is a suspicion ( like can't speak English ) they will run a check on them. Remember for a illegal immigrant to work in the United states they have to have false documentation that makes them guilty of committing multiple federal crimes that you and I would spend up to 60 years in prison for. I applaud the Arizona People and I am Completely embarrassed and ashame of our President for promoting crime. . |
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