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Liberty
Tuesday, June 1, 2010: 10:19 pm
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Doesn't this man have a lawyer ?

A Hoosier
Tuesday, June 1, 2010: 10:59 pm
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OMG, I wish I were this man. I would so have the tails of the county in front of a judge. Pay me.

This oppression/tyranny has got to stop. Does anyone believe in the Constitution or the Bill of Rights? Good God.

Just because you make a law that is against the Constitution/Bill of Rights does not mean that it will hold up in court. Sue them. Sue them all.

Ed
Wednesday, June 2, 2010: 6:31 am
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Hoosier, Liberty, How would you like this guy to be your neighbor?

A Hoosier
Wednesday, June 2, 2010: 9:41 am
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Ed, I live off 252. There is a guy living in a bus on this road. Several men have all kinds of tractors sitting in their yards, big trucks, work equipment. A family has furniture in their front yard. Why the heck would/do I care?

My interest lie within the Constitution.

Over time, however, that instinctive distrust of government has given way to a false sense of security rooted in the belief that the government is looking out for our best interests. Thus, as our complacency about the need to actively and personally defend our freedoms has increased, the government's commitment to respecting our Fourth Amendment rights has dissipated.

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Liberty
Wednesday, June 2, 2010: 10:39 am
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Ed,

At one point in my life we owned acreage. I watched property next to us go to pot and a van turned upside down for a chicken coop, junk, trailers and rats were over there and worst yet they were planning to raise pigs for sausage business. No we didn't like, not one bit. It was hard not to let my pride take over but the fact was this and this is how we handled it. First, we realized that we moved there to have land and get away from people but regardless of where we went we will have to cohabitate with someone.

A persons property is their own domain and ( although the state actually owns it and we pay rent in form of property tax) they made no agreement with anyone to do with their land what their neighbors wanted them to do. So we talked with them and told them some things were an eye sore but they were proud of their property and acted embarrassed and insulted.

Not all have a vision of their land that matches the Jone's.

We realized that if we wanted to live away from that we would have to live in an area where everyone made the agreement to have everything look just a certain way. For better or for worst that's why there are homeowner associations. They cost.

Yes, there are many that wants it both ways, to live as cheap as they can on a county road but wants the ability to tell their neighbors what to do.

The neighborhood that Mr Walters lives in should have a association and everyone can pay dues and meet each month to determine who they are going to get on next.

I understand your jest and the sentiment is real because I too have felt it but people must be able to over come their pride and ask themselves this. Do I respect my neighbor enough in how they wants their property to look and to do with it as their own.

We did and moved.

P.S. It's funny how they called tall grass a health issue when his property borders a farm field with much higher vegetation from where the rodent really come from.

A Hoosier
Wednesday, June 2, 2010: 10:47 am
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Ed, I must apologize. I have let my anger get the best of me, in both the Walter�s and the Sentenced to help out stories.

Here it is from the heart. These are people, people with feelings, families, and with people who love them. They are no different than you and me. We, as a society, have turned them into criminals without rights or feelings. We have labeled them no better than animals. I don�t think that damnation is justified or warranted. Neither of these people deserves the treatment they are receiving. They have hurt no one. The only people that they have made suffer were themselves.

If you know anything about people with mental illness (self destruction is a mental illness), punishment does not fix the problem and may only intensify it.

Mr. Walter�s obviously has a problem, that yard was the worst I had ever seen. Would it not have been better to spend the last three years educating Mr. Walter�s about the objects in his yard and let him understand the hazards and the feelings it could provoke in others? Would it not have been better to understand why Mr. Walter�s felt the need to have all those items in his yard? What were his intentions? Was it to make money? Could we not have helped him? I�m not saying it would have worked but it�s better than force. And as Liberty suggested-Do I respect my neighbor enough?

The inmates working for 1 day off of their sentence for 40 hours of work, it�s just not fair. Three points: 1) I can make a deal with a vulnerable person to my advantage every time. Does that mean that I should take benefit of someone because I have the opportunity? No, I should not. It�s wrong. 2) In order to be fair and just, would it not be a better deal for the inmate if this were hour for hour or a paid task. Would that not be fair? Why not lend a hand up? 3) If these guys are able to work in the community with minimal supervision, why can they not be released? These men have committed no crimes of violence. They have had victimless crimes, hurting only themselves. Let them go or pay them fairly.

We look for ways to solve our problems without taking the time to look at the people we are persecuting. We expedite our food, our shopping, and our justice without considering the consequences of our behavior.

I guess what I am trying to say is-can�t we just be a little nicer to folks. Try to lend a hand up instead of hurting people?

Phantom
Wednesday, June 2, 2010: 11:54 am
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Hoosier, Liberty:
We do not live in this world alone. Property rights are good up to a point. However, when we choose to junk up our property to the point of being a health hazzard, or, to the point where it affects the value of a neighbors property, something must be done. Neighbors have rights also.

As for working prisoners, idle hands are the devils playground! There are no victimless crimes that put these folks in jail or prison. Speaking from family experiences, I say that the non-violent offenders should be put to work on road and clean-up projects for the county where incarcerated. Allow them a small hourly wage (a portion to be saved for release date), the rest for commissary. No additional time off for work done. Good behavior time is enough.

Welcome to the real world.

A Hoosier
Wednesday, June 2, 2010: 1:09 pm
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Phantom, I have a couple of quotes I would like to share with you:

Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from a religious conviction. Pascal

Forgive us for cheering legislators who promise low taxes, but deny homes and schools and help to those in need; for self-righteousness that blames the poor for their proverty or the oppressed for their oppression. United Presbyterian Church

Self-righteousness is a loud din raised to drown the voice of guilt within us. Eric Hoffer

Where Mercy, Love and Pity dwell, There God is dwelling too. William Blake

Teach me to feel another's woe, To hide the fault I see; That mercy I to others show, That mercy show to me. Alexander Pope

Until we know the hearts and minds of men we can understand nothing outside ourselves, nor will we ever reach fulfillment as that greatest miracle of all, the human being. Marya Mannes

Peace.

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