Home-school participation continues to increase
read more recent story comments Reader comments| Liberty Wednesday, October 6, 2010: 10:12 am More from Liberty  | Folks, This is the best news all year. A 140% increase in just one year means that parents are looking inward and seeing something different than what the world has convinced them in the past. As everyone can read you don't have to be on your own when you home school. There are homeschool groups all over. I just learned of one way out in the county outside of Paragon last month. Anyone can do it even if you work you can do it after work. So work during the day and teach at night. Remember the majority of the time spent in a GEC day is completely wasted to movement, waiting, playing and transportation. A good teacher will always encourage homeschool because they understand the overabundance of advantages in learning it produces. Only through arrogance and self pride will a GEC teacher denounce homeschooling. As more and more parents recognize this arrogance they realize they too have been victimized by the GEC's into thinking only NEA UNION teachers should instruct your child. It's become a system designed to employee NEA union members and that's the only thing it can claim success in. It's now the clearing house for all government socialist propaganda and immoral thinking indoctrination. No it's not the parents fault. Your children's minds have been hijacked by the government and it's socialistic unions. It's great to see that parents are now standing up and taking their children back !!! Great read. |
| Proud to be a teache Wednesday, October 6, 2010: 12:41 pm More from Proud to be a teache | Liberty, there are many things that I agree with you on, but this is one that I don't. Homeschooling works for many people, for others it does not. I CHOOSE not to homeschool my children as a teacher and I put them in PUBLIC education. My daughter wants to study in areas that I am NOT capable of teaching her. Her favorite subject is science. As a freshman she is already taking Chemistry Honors. She wants to be a doctor. To get into a good medical school she will need very advanced science classes. I am horrible at science. I don't get it and probably never will enough to be able to teach my child the AP courses she will need to get into a good college. Second, my children will have to work with all types of people as adults. They will probably have to work with people who do not share the same moral values as we do as Christians. The Bible tells us to go out and witness. Believe me, everytime my daughter hears someone use language she doesn't use, she talks about it and her faith. Her peers respect her enough not to use some of the language around her that they would otherwise use. She is being a witness to her faith each and every day she is at school. People notice and some students have asked her about her beliefs and faith. Who knows what kind of seeds she is planting that may take root at some point? At the same time she is learning valuable lessons in how to work with people with whom she disagrees. Does this mean she is advocating their choices; no it does not. But it does give her people skills which she will need as a doctor. As for what you think we public school teachers are teaching? Not all of us who are employed by public schools teach government socialist propaganda. I am very conservative and highly against that. Since you have never been in my classroom you cannot say what I do and do not teach. Instead of lumping us all together, maybe you should actually get to know each of us individually. My best friend homeschools her children, but she respects me for what I do which is to teach. All of my children's teachers have been strong Christian role models. They work with the kids one on one and answer questions. Never have any of my children been taught a "socialist propaganda" curriculum. I have been lucky so far maybe. Or maybe I as a responsible parent am also teaching my children their morals and values at home and they are being good examples in school. |
| Liberty Wednesday, October 6, 2010: 2:54 pm More from Liberty | Proud to be a teache, Because you signed up for the site just to respond to my post I assume you have some passion in your words. Unfortunately I'm just a grouped collection of pixels and have no ability to get to know all those who read my post so I have to write to the general populous environment. But to you, who just shared with me, your love and commitment for Christ and your family I'll say this, I praise God for you being in the GEC system for the vast majority who are the rule and not the exception that your family are. The Governmental education systems ( or as I have penned " compounds" ) systematically net societies, not individuals. Although you are unable at this time to analyze the GEC effect of your child's educational, social and moral outcome vs homeschool you will never be able to tell what might be different if you had homeschooled but I do understand your pride in her witness at school. I felt the same when my own daughter challenged evolution class years ago. Your family's commitment in following Christ is whats most important because in the end that's all that will matter. All the rest we do while we are here is only a vehicle to introduce Christ to others. Our education just helps determine what make, model and color that vehicle will be. Never educated or having all the knowledge ever put on paper will not change one bit who we are for Christ or what we can do to bring others to know Him. I have several educators in the family and of my own, GEC (science) and a home educator. What most GEC educators ( including my own ) usually aren't aware of is the abundance of resources available for even the most advanced studies. Yes even science and advanced biology. These include curriculum, live web instructions, grouped lab's etc. If anyone thinks there aren't homeschooled student that aren't in med school or engineering school today in this country they are completely mistaken or mislead. Many universities seek out the homeschooled because of their advanced education and student character skills. Our Gec educators say the here just the opposite and nothing but disdain for homeschooling from their colleges and union propaganda. Once parents are involved and exposed to the homeschool industry ( yes industry ) and have gone to some of the many conventions and classes, they quickly gains confidence and abilities in education the GEC system taught in the colleges could never use. It's hard for GEC teachers to even comprehend the way home educators educate, not because they can't but because they were primarily taught a system but not the art. The are so many different styles and ways the home educator can teach I can't speak for none but when you remove the desk and replace it with life the whole world opens up for a child. Each child is an individual and their mind is wired differently than another and will learn differently because of this. In the GEC system the style that's taught may just happen to be the easiest style for 5 % of the students in the class to comprehend but maybe the worst for 5 % to comprehend leaving the rest scattered somewhere in between and most in the lower half of the barrel. In the homeschool environment each child can learn from the optimal approach leaving all at the top of the crop. It's not the teachers fault but it's the system, and leaving all the relevant sexual, government and union issues aside, maybe it's because it is a system. I'm assuming you protected your children's modesty and dignity and didn't let some stranger talk about private sexual matters and parts with your children. I don't know to what extent we may disagree or even is we truly do, but again if were Heaven bound I happy. I appreciate your heartfelt post and Keep spreading the Word. |
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| Voice of reason Wednesday, October 6, 2010: 3:55 pm More from Voice of reason | As an educator...I have to agree that SOME parents who homeschool take it seriously (and do a great job of it). However, I have also seen some parents use homeschooling as a loophole to get around compulsory education. There needs to be accountability in Indiana for parents who choose to homeschool. Parents can do their children a HUGE disservice by taking on such a serious responsibility without being prepared. |
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What you say is pure union propaganda talking point and nothing to do with education but everything to do with controls setup that will shut down homeschooling completely and anything that leaves them powerless or unemployeed. I've been studying the NEA's legislative initiatives and plans for years. Trust me we know what your up to. You should be ashamed of your evil purpose. The statistics call you out. Folks for ever one of someone like the above talking points story above there will be a million who completely out perform and excel. For ever one of someone like the above talking points story above there will be a million who completely drop out of the GEC system. Their intent is not of God and the methods are by deception just as the pixelated character handle illustrates. ( Voice of reason) It's about control and when you here me talk about socialism it's not just because I won't by a car made by a government but the control of human movement and choice that is the main tenet of it and a union is the purist form socialism. Teachers there are alternatives to the NEA and it's affiliates. . |
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| Proud to be a teache Wednesday, October 6, 2010: 6:01 pm More from Proud to be a teache | Liberty, like Voice of Reason I too have seen both sides and in between. One of my daughter's former classmates is a classic example of one who was taken out of public school because the mom didn't like us calling to find out why she wasn't at school. That child is now being homeschooled but in reality she is not. She does a few workbooks here and there, is left on her own a lot (she is 14), and doesn't do much more than that. Many teachers now don't just teach one way. Many of my colleagues really try to teach reaching many different styles with many different strategies so we reach all the students. I have told my students many times however I need to teach it I will. I also belong to our classroom association but that is because I have seen teachers careers ruined by rumors or innuendo and had to spend thousands of dollars defending themselves. By belonging to the association, I would have their legal team at my disposal if I ever need it. Not all of us that belong to the association are doing it just to keep our job. It's to protect my job. God gives all of us gifts to use. I've had many opportunities in life but my gift is teaching and not just to the brightest and best. My job is to let students know there is at least one person who cares about them and whether or not they succeed. I tell my own children and my students that part of my job is to make sure that they don't throw away opportunities they don't even know they want. We do not have a crystal ball to know how God is going to use us so we need to be prepared to use the gifts He gives us. And if anything the longer my children are in public school, the stronger their faith becomes. They find other strong Christian students and lead by example. Truthfully, I would say many of the Christian teens are some of the most popular kids in her grade. Think of all the witnessing they are doing. That is an experience that can never be replicated to some of the neediest people in school being homeschooled. While you are speaking to the masses I actually know more teachers like me in the public school system and feel this passion for helping students. |
| Liberty Wednesday, October 6, 2010: 8:15 pm More from Liberty | Proud to be a teache, The field is ripe for the harvest and I know the work that teachers like you ( specifically )do are much needed by the Lord. One of my own has a similar ministry and similar concerns of law suites because of the god of the world in which we live. Below is known to be an excellent association of professional Christians educators in Public Schools. You won't be personally funding sin and anti-Christian activity. I know the NEA didn't and won't recommend it which is all the better endorsement and credibility that should be needed. Check it out. CLICK HERE for : Christian Teachers Union for a fraction of the cost w/ all the legal support and backing without funding evil. teache, I'm not going to sit here and re-write years of post and blogs concerning homeschooling vs GEC's but I will ask this. In your one person example you wrote " the mom didn't like us calling to find out why she wasn't at school. That child is now being homeschooled but in reality she is not. She does a few workbooks here and there, is left on her own a lot (she is 14), and doesn't do much more than that" I doubt that you have much first hand access to the real life of someone who's mother doesn't like you asking their personal business ". I know the rumors that get started and exaggerated when in a group of like minded people. Trust me I've live it an managed it. Surprisingly enough church is were it can happen the most but let's say this. Since academics can be covered in the home without the distractions of a class room and non-essentials in 2-3 hours most homeschool children have more time for community involvement and personal time than their GEC counterparts. Some have school in the evening after the parents get home. A child of fourteen seen at home in the day time should not cause alarm. Fare safer their than in a GEC in my opinion. I would suggest this, when the thought of that one child's mother that irked you with the cold shoulder come to mind think of the 30% of all the children her child escaped that will be completely failed by the GEC and won't graduate. When the graduation rate starts to hover around a 100% then the GEC's may have some credibility to judge homeschool programs. When the GEC's ACT Composite ever tops those of the homeschool then to maybe they can enter the educational conversation ( yes teache even in science )You see there isn't anything positive in comparison. Yes, it's a witness field but so is all the other places homeschool children frequent and are involved with. Remember most of the GEC child's time is wasted with meaningless movement and wait,so when applied and plugged into meaningful activity that time can make a better child. As I said before you have no clue of what the overall effect the GEC will have on your children because you can only compare them to the other GEC raised children they go to school with. It's appears because of your strong Christian involvement in your family you can see a stark difference between the two but let me warn you of this. I've been in youth ministry and used an analogy for those who went to public schools and just life in general to illustrate the dangers of evaluating ones spiritual well being using that method. Being noticeable different than the ones who are of the world is like holding your arms out and saying as long as I keep this distance from them I'm ok. Unfortunately they are slowly moving closer towards hell and the only real difference is you'll just be a arms length late. Not saying anything to do with your children but most definitely worth some thought for anyone who's responsible for a young persons upbringing. Am I saying your children aren't getting a decent education ? No. Am I saying they could be receiving a better education by you at home ? YES. You just need to really get involved with a homechool group or just go to one of many large homeschool conventions and research it for your self. You have no ability to even begin to understand it from were you sit now. I'm assuming you protected your children's modesty and dignity and didn't let some stranger talk about private sexual matters and their private parts and how to use them with your children. ?? I say this in Christian Love to make a point. I pay now for a private christian school for someone who doesn't have real parents and will be working till I die because of it. I respect you for your misisry but funding the NEA's evil agenda I can't and I know it also bothers you. Please check out the CEAI. I know the NEA demons will dis-own you but that's what Christ has called us to. I'll re-post the link below. Later Sister. CLICK HERE for : Christian Teachers Union for a fraction of the cost w/ all the legal support and backing without funding evil. . |
| Proud to be a teache Wednesday, October 6, 2010: 9:39 pm More from Proud to be a teache | I actually do know the real life of that girl in my example because she used to be one of my daughter's friends in until the girl started doing things my daughter didn't want to be involved in. I know the mom well, she is a very nice lady who is completely ineffective as a disciplinarian. She knew her child wasn't coming to school but didn't know how to make her go. She got tired of the phone calls and so removed her to homeschool. We will have to agree to disagree on the effects. I grew up in the same type of home and so did my husband that we are raising our children. We are products of public school and I am proud that my daughter and her friends are such great role models. Because this world is full of sin, they have to learn to live with their values and still function with other people who don't share those. Again I ask that you don't judge us all by the same cover but individually. For those of us who are passionate about providing a first rate education, it is very demoralizing to read comments such as yours over the years. I will check out the website but know I will not do homeschool. Since I know many who homeschool and have seen it with them, it's a choice that is not right for our family. My friend who homeschools her children and is very involved in a group such as this one in the article agrees with me. |
| Liberty Thursday, October 7, 2010: 12:14 am More from Liberty | Teache, Fair enough, You would have to give up way to much to homeschool anyway. If ones heart isn't into it then I also agree don't. Each parent is responsible for their own children and answerable to God for the same. You are not my business and I respect that but please accept my encouragement with statistics and facts as constructive in my mission to get parents in this county to break away from the GEC brainwashing and take their children back. I'm saddened by your statement that " For those of us who are passionate about providing a first rate education, it is very demoralizing to read comments such as yours over the years" I would assume that if you really believed that you wouldn't feel demoralized. Maybe I'm wrong about that but I sense you may have some reservations about that or you may have not engaged me on the matter. I'm grateful for the conversation about this. As a GEC teachers and a NEA member I don't expect you to do things the same way as parents who aren't. As fare as endorsing your acceptance of the GEC's I wouldn't be able to agree knowing the truth but that's just me and as you said we can agree to disagree. Just to keep the truth true the GEC system isn't a first rate education, the statistics show it's the lowest rate of education or last place among all the others mentioned. Even some of the smallest country's in the world have higer rated education systems than the United States GEC's. That's just the facts. Now that doesn't mean I'm saying you aren't a good great teacher and your children aren't very intelligent so please don't take that as a negative opinion but just doing the math about education systems. When it comes to children nobody including us should be swayed by silly highschool rah rah rah loyalty. Not that you are but just making a point that many do and refuse to annualized the facts. Like I said before all this won't matter when we are in heaven. We both need to persevere satans temptations and keep up the good fight and someday we can maybe look back on how meaningless this stuff really was. :) Just re-posting this for teachers who's conscience is scorched by the site of the NEA/AFFILIATES deduction on their paychecks knowing they are responsible for the harm they do. CLICK HERE for : Christian Teachers Association for a small fraction of the cost w/ all the legal support and backing without funding evil. |
| Liberty Thursday, October 7, 2010: 1:40 am More from Liberty | Correction to the full article in the printed paper. The paper must have relied upon the local GEC system for it's legal information. It said the local school system superintendent had the right to insure attendance of homeschool children. The is completely false and not true. The local superintendent has no authority in the matter what so ever. Any request like this can only be made personally by the state superintendent and made directly to homeschool program by the state superintendent. Thats all. Also the paper printed a parent who wishes to homeschool their children must report their enrollment with the Department of Education and notify the school's principal in writing. This to is completely false. Parents are only required to report enrollment if the state superintendent him/herself personally specifically requests it from the homeschool program, and are never required to notify a local principal. On the DOE website there is an “Enrollment Report Form” that the Superintendent of Public Instruction requests that parents fill out if they decide to homeschool their children. Indiana law does allow the state superintendent to request the number of students by grade level attending the school. However, this request is to be made directly to homeschool program by the state superintendent. The may have been more false information printed by the Reporter Times on this subject. The indianapolis Star has made simular mis-takes in the past and had to correct them. I suggest that anyone who homeschools or are thinking of doing so go and join the Home School Legal Defense Association ( HSLDA ). They will give strong legal defense of your rights under the law. CLICK HERE for their websites Indiana section. This legal group carries a big legal stick and keeps the local school system and the nosy cps off your back and out of your life. . |
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