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Friday, October 8, 2010: 7:44 pm
More from copeman
|Sorry but what I remember about the Bush years was that all my neighbors and family were WORKING.|
Friday, October 8, 2010: 11:09 pm
More from Reality Check
|If Dan Coats wins it will prove what many always take for granted here in the Hoosier state: The GOP can count on good ole' Morgan County to continue voting in people who do not represent "most" folks who live in this county. As for the TEA PARTY candidates, just say what you really mean: You're going to give tax breaks to the richest people in America, have no plan to pay for it, and are going to try and find a way to cut/gut any social program that exist: i.e. medicare/medicaid, SS, WIC, food stamps, etc. etc. NOW JUST SAY THOSE THINGS IN YOUR ADS; especially Rand Paul, who is running in the second poorest state in the union. Should be pretty popular.|
It's too bad Democrats are wimps when it comes to national politics or ANY politics. How in the world could you let the same group, the GOP, who ran the country into the ground under "W" (folks, it's pretty clear this happened - it's overwhelmingly clear that this happened - I'll debate you on ANY point, so bring it) He spent and spent and spent, and gave breaks to the richest 1% - and his own VP said, "deficits don't matter."
Um....we didn't have a national depression followed by the collapse of all the US banks.
We didn't have 30% unemployment following...
We didn't have soup lines and 50% homeless rate nationwide.
(However, Martinsville School corporation is pushing 50+% Free or reduced lunch school wide - wait, this communinty is totally run by the GOP, nevermind)
To villify someone who literally came into a stinking, rotting corpse of a government failure left by the previous group is almost pathetic - you can try to blame Clinton, but 5 of the 8 of his years were constant growth and surpluses - so don't try.
Anyways...back to my point. If you vote for Coats, what you're really saying is that you are so stupid of a person that you "genuinely" believe A.) He's a "change" agent "outsider" when he has spent the past decade lobbying as a beltway insider for big oil, big health care and big tobacco - not to mention, running a summit on how to "cut costs by firing employees" B.) He's a conservative (psssst, he voted for FMLA, NAFTA and many other "liberal" agenda ideas) C. He's an outsider, conservative, tea party candidate - WAIT, we covered that. D) You view politics as a sport contest and you will only ever root for a Republican, even though you know this one stinks of washed up, old, retired 23 year congressman who left Indiana to lobby Washington and is now back to "clean house" of the very place he spent two decadeds voting for "liberal" "evil" ideas, like NAFTA and FMLA and numerous other times he voted with Democrats....
And E.) (my favorite point to prove you're a dumb hypocrite) even though Ellsworth is a gun touting' (He's endorsed by the NRA) pro-life (he's against abortion) and VERY religious (he's Catholic) and very devoted (married to college sweetheart) and a former two term sheriff (tough on crime and pedophiles)and a clear moderate voice (he's socially conservative and works and plays well with others),....
You'll still vote straight ticket.
Maybe, I'm being to brash. Maybe there is another explanation?
MAYBE people here are just really busy and it's just easier to have others think for them and much quicker to just push a button rather than go through the list of candidates (which explains decades of wins for Bray and Foley?) - OR
People just like elephants???
OR, maybe they are brainwashed by their fun-loving local "defender of the faith" who so eloquently bashs locals for living in third world developments like Shireman Estates??? Or publishes flyer linking the talking points to elected officials, then says he didn't actually read them?
OR? Maybe there really is something in the water???????????
Sunday, October 10, 2010: 11:00 am
More from Danny Stewart
|RC you make some good points about Coats. As for the rest, let me add my take on it.|
You claim that republicans give all the tax breaks to the wealthiest 1%. Ok, who do you think pays the majority of taxes in this country? the top 2% of wage earners pay 49% of all taxes. The top 5% pay 86% of all taxes. You can look it up with the IRS. It is the wealthiest 2% that take the biggest and most risks in investments and bringing us the things we ALL take for granted in our everyday lives. It is the wealthiest 2% that create the vast majority of jobs via either starting or having a small business or even a big business. These are the very same people that have most to loose, therefore it is only right that they have the most to gain. Without their inventiveness, most of us would not have jobs, and that includes you since you have a government job which is paid for by their taxes.
When you increase someones taxes, you take money out of the economy because you take money that people would spend om goods and services. The more money people have to spend on these things the more tax revenue is raised.
We have government to act as an arbitraitor between us. It is not the governments job to take care of us nor does it have the right to do so.
Now, to Ellsworth, it is true about those things with one exception. He voted for Obamacare. In other words, he voted to have the government take over the healthcare of all of us. Meaning they are implying that we do not have the ability to do so ourselves. Plus, it is another element of our daily lives that the can control. And that's all it's about, control. It's not about lowering healthcare costs at all. In fact, it has already been shown, as we said it would, to increase our healthcare costs. Let alone the fact that the feds are now trying to force us to purchase a service which is unconstitutional. So how pro life can Ellsworth be when he voted with the rest of the democrats on supporting abortion. Paid for of course by our tax dollars.
As for Clinton, he had a democrat congress his first two years in office. It wasn't until the republicans got control of the house for the first time in 40 plus years that we got a balanced budget. In other words, and Clinton himself admitted it, he was forced to take a step back on his liberal plans he wanted to do. As for his so-called surplus, there was no surplus. Money was moved around from other places to make the general fund look like it had a surplus. One example was from the military, which he promptly cut in half while he was in office. As for the economy booming during his term, one only has to look back at the Reagan years to see why that happened.
Now, as for the economy. Look at your history. Yes, whenever we have had a big drop in the economy, a republican was there. Now before you say ahaa, look who was in office before them. DEMOCRATS. Democrats that had raised taxes and increased government influence on the private sector. History is ripe with these facts.
Lastly, as for Coats, people are afraid of new things and that includes people. People don't like uncertainty. They like to feel safe, even if they know the person is not what they want. So they stick with what or who they feel they know. Occaisionally though, you get a smooth talker like Obama. Basically a wolf in sheeps clothing. The main point to all this is that we rely too much on government when we should be relying on ourselves the way we used to. That is what made us the greatest nation the human race has ever seen. It's a proven, undeniable fact, the less government we have, the better off we all are. Remember. it's about equal opportunity, not equal outcome.
Sunday, October 10, 2010: 5:10 pm
More from Reality Check
|Danny, I could work with you. Maybe we should team up...get the middle road Joes and split the difference on the rest.|
I think you got the jist of what I was saying - and, I understand where you are coming from too.
However, I believe we should respect whoever is in the office - REGARDLESS of party - it's there we probably differ.
There HAS to be a solution to healthcare - and most of the problem is COST. The 1994 GOP "Contract with America" and the founder, Gingrich, said "competition, free markets and etc. etc." would bring the costs down. IT's went up 400% since then.
People are one tragedy away from bankruptcy, major catostrophe, etc.
Neither party has a REAL solution. AND, for the record, a PUBLIC option was NEVER on the table. If Obama had done that, then it could be warranted to call him all the names people do. He didn't.
Monday, October 11, 2010: 1:47 pm
More from Pinky
|Sounds like Angela's still drinking that koolaid.|
Monday, October 11, 2010: 3:39 pm
More from Wilbur
|We, The monkeys say this:|
No more taxes...let the Government use their own money from now on!!!
AND WE MEAN IT !!
Monday, October 11, 2010: 3:47 pm
More from Reality Check
|Wilbur.... They already do! They just print on demand now.|
Monday, October 11, 2010: 6:09 pm
More from Bubba
|I see some of these Lib's are still drinking the Obama Kool Aid. God, when will they learn..........|
Monday, October 11, 2010: 9:02 pm
More from Reality Check
|I will not be voting Coats. Hope others watched the debate. Ellsworth is the clear choice.|
Monday, October 11, 2010: 10:14 pm
More from Lassiter
I'de be willing to bet that decision was made long before the debate.
At this point most hoosiers see Coats as the lesser of 2 evils.
Tuesday, October 12, 2010: 9:28 am
More from Liberty
|Lassiter, I think your right on.|
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