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Wednesday, December 15, 2010: 5:06 pm
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|Breakfast with Santa, lunch with Santa, WHATEVER. Why is this happening in a church of all places?! Why isn't the church having a breakfast with the 3 wisemen or lunch with with the shepherds? THINK ABOUT IT!|
Wednesday, December 15, 2010: 5:35 pm
More from Hugh Jorgan
|I couldn't agree more Mr Ratcatcher!!!|
Wednesday, December 15, 2010: 6:00 pm
More from Lassiter
|Lunch with the wise men, neat idea.|
How about Breakfast in the stable?
Wednesday, December 15, 2010: 6:07 pm
More from Ratcatcher
|Thanks for the comment, Hugh. |
Lassiter, is there ANY church in this county that has such an event? If not then why don't you start one? "Mary and Joseph" could tell the Nativity story to the kids and explain to them that the gift of the baby Jesus is better than any gifts of toys that they could ever receive.
Wednesday, December 15, 2010: 7:24 pm
More from Liberty
|3 wisemen and a stable isn't even in the bible. Fiction. |
Wasn't there 8 magi ? Humm can't seem to find the stable. Would someone check on that for me ?
Shows how Satan has so deceived the world that he's the god of and that seems to be the government churches also. That's not all they make up.
I will speak for the many preachers who are concerned with their careers if they would ever just preached the truth and not some fictitious worldly government churches that murderous heretics like Calvin and Luther created. Next time someone quote Luther ask why he pressured the government to mass murder real Christians that wouldn't go along with his heresy and twisting of Gods Word. If you go to a church that says they are part of the reform movement then Luther and Calvin are founders of most of them. Obviously mass murderers are of satan and not of God but yet they are what today's churches are founded on. Hummm.. Make sense. There is a truth and true church but you have to look at God's word to find it. You can also fined it in the 1st and 2dnd century writings and letters of the Apostles elders they decipled who were all taught to take every word of Christ literally. Re-read Matt 5,6,7 then re-read the whole new testiment.
I agree with Ratcatcher, Kingdom saints have no use for a temporary and fictitious Christmas spirit. They live with a full time holy spirit 365 days a year. They give gifts every day not on Christmas day. They have a joy that christmas could never produce. The Lord wants all to come to know and surrender to Him. Then, spread that joy and give every day and don't let anyone ( especially a preacher )( read JUDE ) try to reduce your joy to one day a year.
Christmas is a tool of satan and makes the corporation tons of money. That includes the government churches.
Wednesday, December 15, 2010: 11:55 pm
More from Lassiter
It is true that the bible does not specify Stable. However, Luke 2 does specify that Jesus was laid in a manger because there was no room at the Inn. Where near an Inn in that time would you find a feed trough? In the stable that was adjacent to the Inn for people to keep their animals they traveled with while staying at the Inn.
The main idea is that His birth was humble. Not a grandiose presentation.
Thursday, December 16, 2010: 1:29 am
More from Liberty
|Very right Lass, mangers were often in the street also. The three wise man were made up, the magi ( who knows how many of them ) being at the manger was made up. They didn't show up until Joesph and Mary were in a house. All this just shows that what people are taught isn't always the truth.|
Congregations will put these plays on ( which I have enjoyed) but when children and adults latter realize the Bible says something different it plants subconsciousness seeds of doubt in the minds of those in the pew. Just as when Jesus tells us to not resist evil doers and give them more than they take and allow your self to be beat and killed without resistance to glorify Christ and implement the "heap burning coal" power that changed the heart of a billions of people when Jesus used it. Just as all the apostles and all those in the early church did also illustrated. Only when the military emperor Constantine took over the church 312 and put all on the state payroll was christian non- resistance, that Christ commanded, ordered stopped by one swift ruling. That's when the church ceased to exist. All that happened from that point on can only be considered apostate since the power of the cross ( burning coal) was stripped from the church and it's that very same apostate church that was reformed by the murderous Luthers of the 16th century that gave us the reformed apostate church that also slaughtered massive amounts of true Christians who held to the original church doctrines set forth by Christ. All those who disagreed could be seen up and down the rhine river at night lit up as human torches. Preacher don't talk about that.
Now it's a state religion and all churches are government corporations collecting and spending money in the name of God that's not authorized and even in conflict with the scriptures.
In Christ church the way it was designed just about 100% of the money when to the needy and support of missionary's and 100% of their time went to spreading the kingdom. Paul even said he wouldn't take money from those he preached to because it might discredit the gospel. Now 15% of the money ( if lucky) might go to the needy and missions while the rest go's to all those who want to profit along with the real-estate ( treasures on earth and idols) that will rust and mouths will destroy and about 100% of the peoples time is taken up by the building and all the internal programs for themselves. Plus the non-biblical highly paid speakers ( preacher/pastors)who don't seemed to concerned about discrediting the gospel like Paul did. That is the complete opposite of the Church Jesus set up and that makes it not of God but is of a perfect design of satan to store people in and keep them happy and their money and time all tied up.
The early church was designed to be in their houses and for everyone to participate in the meetings. Sharing all things and living life together as the next leaders was being decipled and trained to start up the next church in their own house. This Godly perfect design was the reason the church grew at the fastest pace in it's history. Even with it being outlawed in many places. Today this design is over taking China with estimates of 21,000 new Christians per day coming from this movement that has millions of house churches spreading across china, India, and Africa. Now maybe it's easier for them to completely surrender to Christ in complete obedience to his commands because they are not all from a democracy that prevents so many Americans from understanding what a kingdom is and that it's not a democracy and we have no rights.
We have to be in complete submissiveness to the will of Christ. No voting we just have to obey. In china they are used to that and it comes easier. In the west we seem to want to hang on to ourselves which Jesus says we can't have any part of if we want to be in His kingdom.
Sorry for the rant but I just want my brothers and sisters to seek to find the truth and not what the theologians perpetrate.
To look to those closest to the Lords church ( 1st and 2nd century )and his apostles for confirmation of His will and not those from 1600 years latter who were killers. Left to man all we have gotten are Idols like buildings and crosses and 36000.00 sound systems. Jesus wants all of our attention payed to his kingdom. :)
Sorry Lass, see what you did. You got me started and now I'm having a hard time scrolling to the top of my post. :)
Thursday, December 16, 2010: 7:48 pm
More from pearl
|I actually saw a breakfast with Jesus announcement on a sign at a Church of Christ in Greenwood. I believe their heart was in the right place when they designed this program but let's examine the possible implications of this scenario.|
A well meaning actor is playing the leisurely role of Jesus as he roams around the tables of children eating pancakes. Oops, Jesus stubs his barefoot toe. How does he respond? Can he possibly respond exactly as Jesus would. Of course he can't, because he's not God. What about when little Suzie asks Jesus if her prayer for her mommy's cancer to be gone has been heard and will be answered? Once again, this poor naive actor is not God and any response, even a non response will surely traumatize little Suzie and all other tiny participants of this event. Some things are nice in theory but in reality they can be quite dangerous.
A live nativity is always nice, as long as the actors and actresses are well educated in all Biblical truths, because, let's face it, children are going to ask about more than the nativity story. Their little faith is so precious, but also so fragile. We just need to be careful in whatever influence we put on them when in pertains to the mystical.
Thursday, December 16, 2010: 8:00 pm
More from Liberty
|Breakfast with Jesus ?|
This is only reducing Jesus to be a make shift santa and lying to children. Satan wins because the seed of doubt is planted. No real faith can grow after that. These government churches are of what ? God ? You can tell who they are from by who's work is accomplished in the end. Jesus says the only way you can judge a
Christian is by their fruit. Deception is of satan so how would we understand this ?
Nice observation pearl.
Thursday, December 16, 2010: 8:01 pm
More from Liberty
to Santa :
I know you may not believe me but there really is a Jesus who loves you. Don't blame your parents and teacher they may not really know him. They also really don't know the damage they did to you. They are only fooled by the one who designed this to be this way. Please don't believe Jesus isn't real. He would never fool you.
,Someone who cares
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