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Parent
Friday, January 21, 2011: 10:44 am
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and here we are worrying about teaching jobs and cutting here and there...Course we need this..about like we need a 15 story hi rise downtown Martinsville.Thank you Kenny for voting against it.Shame on the rest of you!
mcbacker
Friday, January 21, 2011: 11:07 am
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I think it is about time. If you read the article it tells you in print that it comes out of a totally different fund than where staffing is paid and will not cost the taxpayer's anything. This will benefit others besides the football program. The band will now have a field to host band competitions and so on. I think it is about time we update the facilities we have. This is a start!
Cerberus
Friday, January 21, 2011: 11:25 am
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@mcbacker One minor correction to your post. The taxpayers are on the hook for the improvements to an extent (question is how much). Athletics and their budgets have two primary funding sources: A percentage of total monies received by a district and any monies that are generated through gate fees, concessions, etc. You are correct that athletics and staff are not paid out of the same fund, but taxpayer monies will be involved to an extent for the improvements.
Parent
Friday, January 21, 2011: 11:40 am
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thanks for clarifying that Cerberus..sure! somehow taxpayers will be involved someplace in the ordeal. I think the guys who take care of the present field do a great job...band competitions? well.....need to get new mgt in that area as our band keeps getting smaller and smaller...another post another day on that subject!
Liberty
Friday, January 21, 2011: 12:41 pm
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I think it's time for the state to restructure the powers of school boards across the state just as they are with the office of trustee.
A trustee doesn't have to be a CPA but yet that should be a minimal requirement for someone I should be trusted to manage and disperse my money for fire dept and poor relief. They are instead elected by popularity which insures by all possible odds their failure and we just use that failure to set our standards by.

In the same way with the school boards, it's only possible to elect completely unqualified citizens for the power they are given. i.e. Would you want the surgeon that operates on your child's mind to be elected from who ever wants to run for the office of "Children's Brain Surgery" when you know none are trained to as a doctor ? ..... That's exactly what we have and it also is exactly how important our children should also be. They too elected by popularity which insures by all possible odds their failure and we just use that failure to set our standards by. But isn't it our child's very brain we should only be concerned about ?

The answer may be for each citizen to be able to select their child's brain surgeon them selves through a voucher system. Let them determine who, among those who would offer "professional" education resources, will operate on their child's brain. Each parent would receive an educational voucher for each child they have each year. They can then shop from the many "professional education companies that will pop up all across the state in every town. There are several now already in this county. If one chooses to home school then they can use the vouchers to buy their supplies and pay for the expense and field trips that's associated with homeschooling.

With the parents in control, and shopping, a competitive market naturally result and as with all other competitive markets innovation and excellence results. This isn't a theory it's a the physics of a free market. When the United States operated as a free market we became the world most excellent and the worlds most innovated in medicine, science, inventions that created our industrial revolution etc.

The problem is we made our education system operated as a socialist system that of course, like all socialist systems, created the opposite affect on our education system. Just like the socialist health-care system has had in all other countries and will have here to, our socialist education system has failed here. The out come from socialist health care was not better health-care or longer life but just government control over ones body and life. So is it with socialist education here in the states, it hasn't created better trained minds or smarter children but only government control over ones minds, morals and life.

Some have the ability to understand these thing and some don't. That's why we have politics. It's not that the ones who wins office is the most qualified to do the job and make the decisions but just the most popular. It's for that very reason that a politically elected school board is the last group that anyone should trust your child's brain to. Just as this article may indicate.

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mcbacker
Friday, January 21, 2011: 12:58 pm
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@Liberty you are comparing apples to oranges. A child's brain to a decision by a school board. Do you just look for any and every article to make a jab at the public school system and their leaders? I think we all get it "homeschooling" is what you favor. Not everyone agrees with you and reciting and rewriting your rhetoric is getting old. Of course, just my opinion.
not keith rhoades
Friday, January 21, 2011: 1:04 pm
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So instead of possibly decreasing the tax rate with the payoff of a loan, instead the school board takes it upon themselves to keep the rate what it is, and borrow MORE money to keep the current tax rate.

All these schools spending money on expensive athletic fields, and hiking up our tax rates, and Indiana is still one of the few states that charges book rental fee for our students.
Liberty
Friday, January 21, 2011: 1:25 pm
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I respect the opinion of those who want to have a nice Astroturf field and all that for their children and all that.

The thing I want to point out is concerning the comment about whose money pays for it. The school is completely funded by taxpayers and solely belongs to the taxpayers, including any and all money taken in through any of the taxpayers internal enterprises belongs solely to the taxpayers.


It's a common misconception of many about the schools and funding and all that especially from all the parents that volunteer and work hard for the sports program and band like we have. All the sports facilities and programs are taxpayer enterprises that exist inside the taxpayers school system. We learned that all the work we did was only for the added enjoyment of our children and the friends.

That was then and this is now that I have to ask , what does this have to do with eduction ? And why should taxpayers that may not have children have to pay for non-educational fun activity's of others that bring no benefits to society but only is a distraction to the real reason for the communities moral taxpayers obligation which is academic education.
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Liberty
Friday, January 21, 2011: 1:39 pm
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mcbacker said:
@Liberty you are comparing apples to oranges. A child's brain to a decision by a school board. Do you just look for any and every article to make a jab at the public school system and their leaders? I think we all get it "homeschooling" is what you favor. Not everyone agrees with you and reciting and rewriting your rhetoric is getting old. Of course, just my opinion.


I understand your feelings MC, you don't think a child's brain is affected by the actions of those who have control over it. You also look for any reason to support support the public school system. I think we all get it "public school" is what you favor. Not everyone agrees with you and reciting and rewriting your rhetoric supporting it is getting old. Of course, that is just your opinion.

Asking others to submit to self imposed censorship is a very bad thing.

I think we all get it "Astroturf" is what you favor. You don't have to be disrespectful to others to get it. I hope you can see how silly you sounded.

Just my opinion.

Let's be friends.
Peace :)
mcbacker
Friday, January 21, 2011: 2:34 pm
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Let's get one thing straight here Liberty "YOU DON'T KNOW SQUAT ABOUT MY FEELINGS OR ME"

By the way, some of your homeschooled friends will also get to use this "Astroturf" when they play MJFL. As a taxpayer do you still not want to support it?

Peace out :)
Liberty
Friday, January 21, 2011: 2:34 pm
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While we spend a million on a field to play games on instead of education we also quietly teach the little children about how to have sex with the other children.

This is just one of the daily school room travesties that give cause for every parent to go to school and rescue your child today. Even in this county as we seen in the lawsuit at Monrovia this happens. I know some don't like me exposing these things but I'm the taxpayer, you are the parent who turned your child over to me. I'm just trying to do the responsible things you didn't do.


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Teacher on leave after reports that second-graders had sex in class

By Katy Murphy
Oakland Tribune
Posted: 01/21/2011 07:33:42 AM PST
Updated: 01/21/2011 08:20:27 AM PST

OAKLAND -- A second-grade teacher has been placed on administrative leave amid an investigation into a report that two of his students engaged in oral sex during class and that, on a separate occasion, some children took off some of their clothing and were clowning around.

The incidents happened last week at Markham Elementary School, but they only came to the principal's attention Wednesday, after one of the students told a staff member what had happened, Oakland school district spokesman Troy Flint said.

The teacher was present at the time, but says he was unaware of any such incident, Flint said.

The district conducted a number of interviews Thursday to verify the child's report. While some of the details remain vague -- such as when the two incidents occurred, and if they happened at the same time, Flint said. "We believe the substance of the story is true," he said.

Counselors have been brought to the school, and a letter went home to families Thursday, Flint said.

"Obviously it's a horrible situation for the kids, and it's a huge embarrassment for the school and for the district," Flint said.

"We are striving to create schools as safe havens where students can feel secure and trust in adult guidance," he added. "Obviously, that trust was violated in this incident, which was unacceptable. We're going to get to the bottom of this and make sure there's no recurrence. "

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Cerberus
Friday, January 21, 2011: 4:25 pm
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I'm just curious, if I post a negative story about homeschooling is that proof of anything? I would think not. I could take any subject and post stories that are positive, negative, or indifferent. What I find absurd is the posting of opinion (by anyone) that does not persuade or does little to further the discussion. I am up for a good discussion, but its like the guy at the football stadium with the sandwich board that reads "John 3:16". It's cool the first couple of times, but it does little to persuade me and then quickly gets ignored.
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