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Friday, February 11, 2011: 7:40 pm
More from Greg
|Here is my response to a personal invitation that I received today:|
As a formerly homeschooled student, I'm not a big supporter of public education. As a matter of fact, I'm very much in support of alternative systems, such as charter schools and homeschooling. That said, I would certainly agree with you that our schools locally are MUCH better than they are in a lot of other Indiana localities, and most of our teachers are wonderful.
I tend to strongly support Governor Mitch Daniels plan for charter schools and am at the same time opposed to tenure for teachers. If public education is the best, what does it have to fear from charter schools? If a teacher is truly GOOD at what he/she does, why be concerned about keeping their job? Competition ALWAYS improves a product... always.
Thanks for sending me the invite. Chances are very good that I will be in attendance, although likely on the other side of the discussion. I'm always ready for a friendly, courteous debate, and would certainly enjoy discussing this with you further, should you wish to do so.
Friday, February 11, 2011: 9:55 pm
More from Liberty
As you can see we have a NEA union instigators infiltrating our town not only causing discourse among our families but spreading propaganda and staging anti-family protest in our street against our own government. They are the very ones who are allowed to teach be close to your children. Now they are showing the socialist union terrorist technical with this rioting to our children. Unbelievable. Do not let then scare and intimidate you with this threatening our small towns families.
They are using UNION propaganda to spread the LIE that public education is under attack. They know they are LYING because charter schools are PUBLIC EDUCATION. All the state our leader in the state are doing is removing the control from the union that controls them and is responsible along with the politicians for the collapse of our public education in this country. As you can see their young union instigator is using this paper to decimate union propaganda and instigate a possible riot while our children are watching them.
This is the very thing I have been exposing for sometime. This is what it's all about. I suggest every concerned parent show up with a sign showing support for school choice and against the socialist union operative that are infiltrating our town to riot against our choice and freedom to have a say-so in our children education.
Also be sure to take close up pictures of each teacher who is protesting our government. Then submit them to MorganCountyTaxpayer.org for posting. I've been told they will put the government union protesters pictures, with any names provided, on their front page for the public to inspection. They will also be open for a petition to the school board for the removal of any salaried teachers or administrators involved in protesting our government. That's all I've found out as of 5:00pm today.
Who would have thought all those NEA union teachers who lied about caring for the children would finally come out of the closet as the union money leaches and try to stop your rights as parents.
We need to support GOOD public education and not the union failed prisons they work for. Charter Schools will be one of many public school choices this new law, that protects the children and their parents rights, will have. If a voucher system is included it may help you pay for your private school tuition like Tabernacle or Mooresville Christian. Support Parents right for a SAY-SO in your children education and stop letting the union teach your children to lie.
Friday, February 11, 2011: 10:00 pm
More from pearl
|I could make some true negative comments that relate to how the public school system has let down some students in our community; especially the learning disabled. I choose not to do that today. There are too many good things about the public school system in Morgan County; and they specifically have names. Don't throw the baby out with the bath water. Mr. Oakley, if you are so inclined, I encourage you to read these names at your rally. These names are everything that is good with our Morgan County Public School System. I encourage other posters to post their own names, as mine will certainly not be exhaustive. So here it goes. My hat goes off to: Mrs. Judy Meyers (retired), Mrs. Walters (retired), Mr. Hadley, Mr. Bolin, Mr. Earl Haniford, Mrs. Terri Haniford, Mr. Rick Heacock, Mrs. Molly Ferran, Mr. Grant Ansert, Mrs. Carmen Elliot, Mr. Frank Battaglia, Mr. Lund, Mrs. Ann Jackson, Mr. John Jackson, Mrs. Hardin, Mr. Tim James, and Mr. Barrett.|
Friday, February 11, 2011: 10:15 pm
More from countryboy
|Pearl - I agree with you. There are positives and negatives about public schools, both here in Martinsville and in other cities. However, having grown up in the Martinsville Schools, I too have a list of names of those that were influential to me. In addition to the great teachers you've already listed, I'd like to add: Mrs Payne (retired), Mr. Gray (deceased), Mr Kuntz (deceased), Mrs Demotte, Mr. Miller, Mr. Lowe, and Mr. Myers.|
Friday, February 11, 2011: 10:36 pm
More from Reality Check
|Dear Reporter Times:|
Please submit Liberty's post as a threat to a completly non-violent event that from what I know is a pro-public school rally, not a poltical event or a union event.
This is getting ridiculous and this person needs to calm it down.
Friday, February 11, 2011: 10:39 pm
More from Reality Check
Great post. You know what? Maybe you will inspire a large wave of people who want to shout out to teachers that changed their lives - while they still exist and still love their careers.
Friday, February 11, 2011: 11:27 pm
More from Liberty
|Charter school choice is the only pro-public school choice. Anything else is a LIE.|
If anyone tells you this union organized protest isn't a union event .....what? did that union teacher say ?. Just read the article.
Look, these union thugs who are putting this on are the same thugs that pays $ 700.00 per year to fund the ripping apart of live baby's in the womb. If anyone supports people who do that and makes false heroes out of those "nice teachers in the past who did the same then shame on you. If you continue to support those responsible for the killing and dismemberment of baby's through their funding of abortion then you aren't any different than they are. I'm not being mean about it but I'm just dealing with facts and honestly calling a spade a spade. I base my assessment on current published fact. I feel good about my position on that.
I'm sure all these teachers of the past were nice to you and you may have liked them but if the paid for the ripping and burning of babies then the facts are the facts. Nobody made them do it.
This isn't my opinion. It is a fact they don't deny and they even teach the little girls in school they too have the right to kill their baby's. Google "NEA Abortion" And " NEA SEX "
So, the line is drawn. What you do and support is between you and the Lord. Not my business except one little thing, the parents of this state has put the trust of their children in my hands along with every other taxpayer of this state. Not many asked for it but these parent found it easier to trust the taxpayer and I like millions of others are putting the education of their children as more important than some childish girl-school crush on a baby killing teacher and their blood sucking unions interest in the taxpayer treasury.
There are a few good teacher who have morals and won't fund the killing of children and the promotion of it in schools.
CHARTER SCHOOLS ARE PUBLIC SCHOOLS. The only difference is they operate on a performance basis and don't use taxpayers money for their buildings.
Now ask your self this. Even if you want the baby killing to continue to be funded through the union teachers pay checks we give them, why wouldn't you want them to be judged by their performance as a teacher of our children.? That's a serious question because outside of not wanting parents to have a say-so that's the only thing this union rally against any government action to improve the schools is about.
Notice how the union organized this before the parent get off of work ?
The school board meeting from here on out, till they can be replaced through election process, should be packed with parents demanding a choice for their children.
Remember the legislature also was working on a law to protect the exploitation of the students by the union teachers on these kind of matters. This has not been made law yet so like always the union teachers will be bombarding the children monday like they did today. This is so abusive.
With the internet and google there is no excuse for ignorance or anyone falling for blatant in your face propaganda.
Parents, as you can see
Monday, February 14, 2011: 11:12 am
More from Liberty
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Give families another school choice
February 11, 2011 by indystar | Staff
As with almost all education reform efforts, the fiery rhetoric used to attack legislation that would create a private school voucher system in Indiana far outstrips the likely consequences of the proposal.
The president of the Indiana State Teachers Association, Nate Schnellenberger, has described the legislation, House Bill 1003, as “un-American” and an attempt to “destroy public education.”
Yet evidence coming from other states that offer vouchers in one form or another doesn’t support such fears. Florida, for example, began offering vouchers in 2002 for low-income families. Results released last fall from a University of Chicago study of the Florida program found that those most likely to use the vouchers are among the lowest-performing students, a trend that runs counter to fears that private schools will peel off only the best and brightest.
The ongoing study, led by David Figlio, a professor of education and social policy at the university, found that students who take advantage of vouchers tend to improve their academic performance in their new schools. And instead of crippling the public system, the analysis indicates that public school performance has actually increased as a result of vouchers, which the researchers attribute to increased competition.
Figlio notes, however, that vouchers are hardly a panacea for what ails public schools. Test scores have gone up in Florida, but not substantially. Florida also caps the number of voucher participants at about 30,000, a modest number in a state with nearly three times the population of Indiana.
HB 1003, in contrast, does not put a hard limit on the number of students who could use vouchers. But private school capacity for voucher students is expected to top out at about 20,000.
That relatively low number means that vouchers in Indiana, as in other states, would neither destroy nor save public education. The program would, however, create good options for individual families who feel their children have been trapped in failing schools. School choice also might well help urban neighborhoods retain families who would otherwise flee to suburban districts where test scores and graduation rates are higher.
One caveat about HB 1003: Vouchers should be used to help low-income families who now have few positive alternatives for their children. As written, the legislation would offer partial vouchers to families making as much as $105,000 a year. That income level should be reduced.
Still, vouchers have a place in Indiana’s range of educational options. Critics’ unjustified fears shouldn’t be allowed to keep families from choosing what is best for their children.
FAIR USE NOTICE: In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, material on this post is made available on a non-profit basis for educational and discussion purposes only. For more information please visit: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml If you wish to use this copyrighted material for any purposes of your own that go beyond 'fair use', you must obtain permission directly from the copyright owner
Monday, February 14, 2011: 2:22 pm
More from Viper55
|Good parenting trumps a flawed educational system. Spend time with your children, help them with their homework, invest in their lives and it will not matter where they go to school.|
Monday, February 14, 2011: 3:01 pm
More from pearl
|I think the one demographic that everyone has forgotten is the learning disabled child. Unfortunately, I believe they will continue to be forgotten in all of this mess. I am interested in what can be helped for this demographic. Private schools will typically tell parents that they are "ill-equiped" for this type of child because, let's be honest, the ld child brings down test scores. I feel that the public school system simply pushes them through the system, and children are graduating well below their true capacity because of this. I have personally seen very bright students not attend college because SAT and ACT scores were too low because of their learning disability. I have witnessed LD people who are on disability as adults because they were pushed through the system.|
I had a college professor who happened to be dyslexic. I believe with the proper education an LD child can do anything. Why isn't this happening? What can be done about it? I know the parents of these children, and they are very good parents. They feel their hands are tied. I want some solutions to this problem. Parents should have a choice whether or not to homeschool. Unfortunately, with LD children, there doesn't seem to be an option. How is this public education for all children?
Monday, February 14, 2011: 3:21 pm
More from Liberty
I agree with you Pearl,
Since Charters can't get by with unacceptable performance like the union protected and already have dealt with challenged children because the Government schools push to get rid of them, we should see an improvement in the outcome.
Here is a link that may explain better.
Monday, February 14, 2011: 3:25 pm
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