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Monday, March 28, 2011: 2:06 pm
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|Another life ruined. The Phelps boy will never escape the judgement of this action. A person would think that people would learn the consequences of evil before embracing it.|
Monday, March 28, 2011: 3:27 pm
More from Ratcatcher
|Maybe he never learned that his actions have consequences. Some kids have parents that buy them out of trouble at every turn and make excuses for them when they do wrong. They don't punish them and so they grow up thinking they can get away with stuff like this. The rules don't apply to them because mom and dad taught them they were "special" and they have no respect for authority, teachers or any other adult. |
I am in no way saying this is the case for Phelps. I don't know him or his family. I am speaking as someone who has seen others who were coddled as kids turn out poorly when they grow up and have to live in the real world and can't run and hide from the police under mommy's skirt.
Monday, March 28, 2011: 3:38 pm
More from Liberty
send the 15-year-old to adult court.
Every crime that may have can be charged has provisions under the juvenile justice system which exists because of the proven fact that the raging hormonal teenager is not capable of complete rational thinking. Being troubled only exasperates that. This is why our system of justice is designed differently for teenagers. The motivation and only motivation for prosecutors and judges to attempt and circumvent the prescribed method of justice for young people is hate and revenge ( vengeance) which are both sins.
Now, since a 15 year old boy being sent to an adult prison is the equivalents to Murder or worst then my stand is any prosecutor or judge who bypasses the justice system designed for this boy and sentences him to death in a adult prison are of themselves guilty of a much greater crime than this young boy is accused of. In affect they will be guilty of murder and worst.
What has become of our community that hate and vengeance is considered expected of our politicians elected to offices within our justice system.
I say stick to the laws of God and man. The Juvenile Justice system has all the proper provisions necessary for this unless you really want to lench this boy and I don't think the victims parents want that.
Monday, March 28, 2011: 3:40 pm
More from Rod
|Why is he being charged as an adult?If a 15 y.o. decides to have sex they are a child.If they commit a serious crime suddenly they know what they are doing and are tried as an adult.Does anyone really think he knew what he was doing?|
Monday, March 28, 2011: 3:42 pm
More from Liberty
|Should have read :|
Every crime that can be charged has provisions under the juvenile justice system which exists because of the proven fact that the raging hormonal teenager is not capable of complete rational thinking.
Monday, March 28, 2011: 5:23 pm
More from liwms
|There you go. There is the problem. People who accuse the prosecutors and judges who are trying to protect us from evil of being worse than someone who would take a weapon and at close range shoot an unarmed young person twice, not once, twice in the stomach, obviously aiming to kill him.|
Rehabilitate? Seriously. And if that happened he would be out and he would kill the next person that thwarted his desire. And it will be another innocent person. Forgiveness has a fine line between giving God the right of judgment and enabling evil.
Monday, March 28, 2011: 5:25 pm
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|There is a judicial system set in place to handle this stuff. There is a law of the land for a reason and when someone breaks those laws repeatedly as Phelps has done its obvious the juvenile system isn't stopping him, deterring him, or helping him in anyway. Repeat offenders get harsher punishments. That is why they are trying to charge him as an adult. Its not to get him murdered in an adult jail facility. He CHOSE to do what he did. It was premeditated, known about by several people who tried to keep him from doing it and he maliciously opened fire upon another individual. No matter how you look at it, what he did was wrong and deserves punishment. More importantly though regardless of what the judicial system decides, he needs prayer as does his family, the victim, and the victims family. It should have never happened, but as I recall when I was a teenager, no matter what the hormones were that were supposedly "raging" as was stated earlier I nor anyone else in the school I attended would have gone that far. We all knew it was wrong, just as he did or he wouldn't have concealed the weapon, and then thrown it to try to hide and then run off. He knew what he did was wrong.|
Monday, March 28, 2011: 5:53 pm
More from eagle
|I'm not buying the "raging hormone" crap. All of us were teenagers once and I would bet the majority of us didn't shoot anyone.|
Monday, March 28, 2011: 6:36 pm
More from nobodyimportant
|Liwms. Interesting statement, "Forgiveness has a fine line between giving God the right of judgment and enabling evil." Can you tell me what this means?|
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Monday, March 28, 2011: 9:16 pm
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|The mother and her children have all been in trouble with the law over the past several years. There is a history of alcohol and drug abuse. It's sad to see this happen and no one gets the help they need. Hopefully this sends a huge wake-up call to the entire family as they all need help.|
I don't buy any of the raging hormone theories that is being stated. We are all taught the difference from right or wrong. Some people continue to do wrong no matter what, which is how this family operates. With mom and the older siblings getting in trouble the pattern is being laid out. Especially if no one really pays their debt to society, but just gets a slap on the wrist, which is what has happened to most of them. I pray for changes to take place in their lives.
Monday, March 28, 2011: 10:02 pm
More from liwms
|I am having some trouble figuring out how to directly respond to comments on this site but I agree my last statement was not stated very clearly. I can't say what was in the shooter's heart, only God can know that but when people so freely just "forgive" someone and look for excuses and want to let them off with a lesser punishment, I worry that we are diminishing the crime and denying the presence of evil and other people will not be deterred from a similar crime.|
Tuesday, March 29, 2011: 12:37 am
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|Thanks Liwms for the explanation. You did confuse me some. Forgiveness and consequences for acts are two completely different things in my mind. When God forgives someone who asks with a repentant heart, it does not mean that there will be no consequences in earthly terms. When we forgive each other it also is not a signal that we believe the person should catch a break from consequences.|
I saw where the mother of the boy who was shot has already forgiven the shooter. That is an act not only commanded by God, but it is one that promotes healing. She could have gotten all eaten up over the event, and frankly most people would. It is not easy to forgive someone who has harmed a loved one. Harboring unforgiveness can pull a person down spiritually, mentally, and even physically.
One of my favorite quotes is from Corrie Tenboom. She said, "To forgive is to set a prisoner free and discover that the prisoner is you."
A good study of this is in the Second Book of Samuel in the Bible. David was a man after God's own heart, but he sinned many times, and he repented of his sins. But the consequences of the sins were far-reaching and lasting. God forgave him, but there was a price to pay.
There has been a lot of aingst on this site over this incident, pointing fingers and trying to find someone or some institution, or some thing to explain why it happened. At the core of all of it is sin. There is only one solution for that.
What each of us can contribute is not our best thinking about how to correct "the problems", but prayer and thanksgiving. One of the basic tenents of Christianity is that we are to thank God for everything. That means even this incident. It sounds convuluted, but every tragedy is an opportunity to show Christ. For some, it is the event that causes a heart change. I am not saying that is what will happen in this case, but what if it is the bottom for the young shooter? What if is the time where he gets it and sees a need for Christ? Could it be worth it?
I personally know of many men and women who today thank God that they were caught in crime and were forced to face the consequences. Sitting in jail, facing many years behind bars doesn't sound like something you could be thanful for, but looking back to those days, people tell me that had they not been caught, they probably would be dead.
Of course, we would not wish these things on others, and we should do what we can to prevent them, but we should not be so quick to throw the offenders and their families on the trash heap. When life hands you a lemon, make lemonade.
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