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read more recent story comments Reader comments| Liberty Monday, April 11, 2011: 3:36 pm More from Liberty  | Here we go folks,(see following article below) If your family make $60,000 or less you will soon be able to place your child in a private school like Mooresville Christian, Tabernacle, Suburban, Greenwood Christian and many more who offer superior educational outcomes and much higher standards in academics and safety of your children. And with enough to cover even an expensive school. The people of the state have won and the teachers union has lost. No sure why they wouldn't want you to be able to do better for your child. They must not consider your children someone they should lose power over and especially not to their parents who they punch and blame for all the union-government failures. .....How dare you parents think you have the right to come into our class rooms and remove the union-governments children. How dare you......we will protest and strike and call people names..... Parents you have won. Now from this point on we must keep demanding to expand this to higher income families also, till all children have equal rights to a good and safe education. Don't forget about the upcoming Homeschool convention in Indy's convention center the first of June. --------------------------------------- --------------------------------------- This is a GREAT victory for the families of Indiana. By Steve Gunn EAG Communications Indiana House of Representatives approved a bill that would allow families making up to $60,000 per year to use public funds to send their children to the private school of their choice. The House vote was 56-41. The bill will now go on to the Senate, and would require the eventual signature of Gov. Mitch Daniels to become law. Senate passage and the governor’s approval are both expected. The legislation is bitterly opposed by the Indiana State Teachers Association, the largest teachers union in the state. It also drew ridicule from the group of Democratic state representatives who fled to Urbana, Illinois for several weeks to prevent passage of education reform bills. The program would be far more inclusive than most current voucher programs in the nation, which typically are limited to low-income households, students in failing schools or special-needs students. The program would benefit up to 7,500 students in the first year and 13,000 in the second year. After that there would be no limit on the number of kids who could participate. Some believe the resulting competition for students would be precisely what public schools and teachers unions need. Earlier in the day, a crowd of about 1,000 voucher supporters gathered at the statehouse to urge passage of the bill. Those addressing the crowd included Daniels, former Washington, D.C. School Chancellor Michelle Rhee and Indiana House Speaker Brian Bosma. The crowd was reportedly more orderly than the mob that gathered in Madison, Wisconsin a few weeks ago. Nobody was camping in the Capitol, diving through windows, getting arrested or heckling lawmakers as they entered the building. But their mere presence proves that some citizens believe school choice and education reform are critical, despite the persistent opposition of the special interest unions. ---------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------- PS, Because it now cost the state almost $10,000.00 dallors per child for the union-government schools to fail them, this bill saves the taxpaying parents over 30% of what the union-government schools cost us now per child. And, NO NEW BUILDING COST. No tax increases to pay for velvet football fields and billion dollar building shrines like Decatur's who will lose state accreditation next year if something drastic doesn't happen. That alone will save billion's for taxpayers in Indiana. All this with improvements in your child's environment and education too. That's a WIN-WIN for parents and students. It's also a win for our teachers with children whose income fall within those guidelines. The only losers are the unions who feel they own your children. Well, can't make everyone happy.:) Peace :) |
| Common man Monday, April 11, 2011: 5:47 pm More from Common man | Liberty. We get it you do not like unions or government schools. You just keep beating that same dead horse. Please come up with some new material. Home schooling only allows your child to see what you want them to see. They receive limited socialization with large groups and no conflict resolution with other students. |
| Just observing Monday, April 11, 2011: 7:29 pm More from Just observing | The article was not just about home schooling. It affords parents such as myself to have the opportunity to send our children to a private school of choice, using public funds. A great opportunity for many children to better themselves, this opens the door for a whole new opportunity! |
| Liberty Monday, April 11, 2011: 8:08 pm More from Liberty |
Hey common man, sorry buddy but I don't have time to provide you custom material. My message isn't intended for your audience but rather for another. You have been completely buffaloed with the fictitious stuff about "They receive limited socialization with large groups and no conflict resolution with other students."All the studies prove just the complete opposite in both cases. What you probably have heard came from a NEA teacher touting union propaganda. Out come studies have found Homeschool people so fare advanced in these areas. I can point you to all the research if you want. Or just ask a college entrance councilor who they seek and accept for these reasons. It's been a while since my last posting. Let me know. Hope this helps,but this article here is just informing our county parents who are just now starting to stand up in favor of other forums of education that they will soon be able to just call the union run school and sing this song (CLICK HERE, very rare and the best, this is a treat) Just a shout out to the union control freaks out there. Parents, pick up the phone, call your local government school and sing along !!! Just encouraging better education for the parents who are tired of being slammed and put down by the arrogant union. We do praise God for providing. Peace :) |
| Common man Monday, April 11, 2011: 9:36 pm More from Common man | Liberty. My experience comes from working with kids that have been home schooled they have had little or no social skills. I have no problem with home schooling. But in this case this is government trying to busting the teachers union. |
| Common man Monday, April 11, 2011: 9:42 pm More from Common man | Sorry. Bust |
| Liberty Monday, April 11, 2011: 10:58 pm More from Liberty |
Since this is so completely the norm and your original opinion shows your lack of understand of home schooling I will say this, what many see in home schooled children that makes them stand out is they don't act like union-government ed children who aren't socialized. When you throw child into a group of un-socialized children all you get is childish acting children unable to properly and effectively function and communicate with the adult population. The reason for this and why many at 18 can't function as anything but a child is because the were taught to socialize as a child and communicate with children. A home-schooled child spends most of their time with experienced socialized adults teaching them socialization and communication skills and the rest of the time with other children (usually homeschooled) to practice them. Since the parents job is to raise up a child to be a functional adult and not a childish 25 year olds that can't leave home or ask for a job, one can understand why all the studies show them fare more active and involved in community service as young adult while those socialized with un-socialized children barley shows ant community service after school or involvement with adults. Yes, homeschooled children are more apt to be able to sit down with you and talk about the current events of the day or negotiate job advancements as a young adult so you better believe they act different because that's why they are home schooled. you said: I have no problem with home schooling. But in this case this is government trying to busting the teachers union. Now to the article. What the articles about isn't homeschooling but private schools as a choice for parents of children. I'm not sure how any consideration of a union can enter into the same conversation. This is about childrens education, not welfare job placment for a union worker. What's that have to do with education ? Maybe you should reread the article on this. Peace :) As a separate consideration, what's wrong with busting the teachers union ? I don't get. . |
| Liberty Tuesday, April 12, 2011: 12:31 am More from Liberty | That should have read : "Since this is so completely out of the norm and your original opinion shows your misconception of home schooling I will say this," |
| nobodyimportant Tuesday, April 12, 2011: 8:22 am More from nobodyimportant | Common man had a point not to just be causally dismissed. I too have observed the delay in development of social skills in home schooled kids. In the past several years, home-schooling parents have responded by providing their children more opportunities to interact with other children at the YMCA, through group field trips, and the like. Liberty makes no sense at all about public school children being "unsocialized." Socialization is the process of giving a person the skills to interact in a culture. The last thing we need are kids who don't have the tools to live among people ooutside their family in today's world. And we don't need 8 year olds more comfortable in sitting with adults discussing current and world events than playing and interacting with children of their own age. They will have plenty time, God willing, for acting and talking like adults. Let them enjoy childhood. |
| Liberty Tuesday, April 12, 2011: 8:44 am More from Liberty | Nobody, You have absolutely no understanding of what you speak on. You can think what you want but guess what, it's not reality and all the statistics and current studies in homeschooling prove it. we don't need 8 year olds more comfortable in sitting with adults discussing current and world events than playing I guess since your NEA approach has proven to be a disaster in society by all measures you must surely have some social established success statistics to give at least some credibility to your union failure. LOOK AROUND. The proof is in all around you. The government recognizes it, the law enforcement does, the colleges won't hardly take a GEC child without a year of remediation anymore and also will tell you home-school children are ready both academically and emotionally but GEC children aren't. Yes, we do need more 8 year old children who can sit and discuss things with their parents and fewer who can't and has to turns to their buddies in the allies. Parent, the failed government way and the propaganda they spell out is nonsense and has no measurable outcomes of success but just hot air. . Here is a question for you. Who do you think teaches social skills to a child in a union-government school ? ? ? |
| golforegal53 Tuesday, April 12, 2011: 9:25 am More from golforegal53 | Every home-schooled kid that I know is a total whack job! They have no social skills, and were a "problem" in school and therefore that is why they are now home-schooled because they could not adjust to social settings, discipline and structured learning. Liberty you are very boring to read and wish you would find another outlet for your soapbox preaching! THE END! |
| Liberty Tuesday, April 12, 2011: 10:57 am More from Liberty |
WOW, the GEC school destroys some more children and now are home-schooled. They have no social skills, and were a "problem" in school and therefore that is why they are now home-schooled Sounds like the union prison was the problem. If this is even true. As a union teacher you are the last to be trusted in educational opinions, especially when you consider children "whack jobs". You have no success to give you credibility. The proof is you can't throw children needing social skills into a group of children without them and get adults with good well adjusted social skills from it. This isn't a theory or something. This is what the union-government failure is putting out. You know if you wouldn't be against improvements in the system and trying to defend failures like you are trying to do on hear, maybe somewhere along the millions of children wouldn't have been failed. The reason the government considers your protected prisons a failure as do most parents is because you folks have fought and bought to keep it that way. Just to protect your own pocket books. Praise God the adults in this state and across this nation are aware of this crisis and are taking action. Parents and children, and good teachers have won, teacher union looses. Congratulations parents, you soon will be able to use your tax dollars to send your children to good and successful schools. For you non-NEA teachers or those who want to break free of their control their should be many new opportunities across the area for good teachers wanting to escape from the union children prisons. Peace :) |
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