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read more recent story comments Reader comments| Liberty Tuesday, July 12, 2011: 11:46 am More from Liberty  | So he was given a choice, admit to attempted murder or face all the charges with a tainted jury. It funny how the system works. Our government isn't after the truth but makes a deal that they will give something in exchange if the defendant will actually commit perjury and confess to something he really may not believe. Happens every day. We pay for it too. Why not just deal with the truth. Why not put a gag order on the prosecution in all criminal cases so the citizens can get a fair trial. Isn't that the idea ? Kind of scary when the poor has to use a defence layer who works for the prosecutor. What does anyone expect. Just pointing out some facts and dealing with the truth for what it is. Peace :) |
| Liberty Tuesday, July 12, 2011: 11:47 am More from Liberty | lawyer |
| grandma3 Tuesday, July 12, 2011: 1:11 pm More from grandma3 | Looks like Gray called it as he heard it straight from Phelps. |
| ConfusedAgain Tuesday, July 12, 2011: 4:02 pm More from ConfusedAgain | Liberty it is normally the defense leaking information to the press and/or the press just simply making up information. It also was going to be a bench trial not a jury trial, get your facts straight. Oh, that's right you never really have the facts! |
| tarch Tuesday, July 12, 2011: 4:44 pm More from tarch | Liberty, I'm not sure what this comment means: "Kind of scary when the poor has to use a defence layer who works for the prosecutor. What does anyone expect. " But aside from the fact that defense is mis-spelled, I would love to hear what you mean by that. Especially if you can answer without posting 5 paragraphs of bible quotes and mis-quoted law. |
| elelady Tuesday, July 12, 2011: 5:37 pm More from elelady | The Pauper attorneys, court appointed for those that can not afford one, do not work for the prosecutor's office. They are attorneys that the county pays out of the Pauper attorney account, which all taxpayers contribute to this fund. It sounds like the young man took responsiblty for his actions and did not want to go through a long process. We should all pray for this young man, his family and the victim and his family. |
| nobodyimportant Tuesday, July 12, 2011: 5:48 pm More from nobodyimportant | Anyone who has ever been in court when a guilty plea is accepted knows that the defendant is asked to describe what was done and how. Young Phelps knew what he did and described it in detail that had to, at a minimum, match the accounts known by investigators. He wasn't faced with a Hobson's choice between pleading guilty and being railroaded by a biased jury. He did what an honest person does, or one who knows the truth cannot be hidden. He admitted to what he did. He should be appreciated for doing the right thing and saving the taxpayers a huge amount of money. A person, juvenile or adult, should own up to the actions he or she has taken. If not guilty, then is the time to stand and fight. |
| Ifyouaskme Tuesday, July 12, 2011: 8:47 pm More from Ifyouaskme | For Liberty who commented on Pauper lawyers.I do not know for a fact but I doubt that John Boren was a Pauper lawyer. |
| Liberty Tuesday, July 12, 2011: 9:42 pm More from Liberty | Ifyouaskme, I don't know the arrangements but I would have to agree with you. I don't think he's on that list. unfortunately this will be another bankrupted family. Loss of a child and another to defend ? You know...maybe it should be the state pays for the legal fees of those the prosecute and lose. The citizens have to have some kind of protection against the government. That's my opinion. Peace :) |
| Liberty Tuesday, July 12, 2011: 9:56 pm More from Liberty |
You are confused again, confused. They were in the jury selecting process. That's why they moved it to another county. If you had been following this you would have seen how the jury pool in that county was polluted and impossible to selected an impartial jury, which every citizen is intimated. That's why they settled for what they did. Here is what on polluted jury said, “AsThere you go. Seems that's what one of the hate and lynch commenters said those exact word on here. Hummmm. To be made to confess just because you are denied a fair trial by a fair and impartial jury is wrong. But it is a form of Morgan County Lynching law. We are becoming used to it, skip the rules and let corruption reign. Peace :) |
| Liberty Tuesday, July 12, 2011: 10:03 pm More from Liberty |
Wow starch, since you gave me all that I can use because you don't want to hear I guess only YOU are going to be able to write what you do want to hear. Go at it, you will be pleased. I appreiciate your help. An thanks for the free proof reading for me. Peace :) |
| Liberty Tuesday, July 12, 2011: 10:22 pm More from Liberty | This may bring some understanding to my point, It's from Should We Have Public Defenders? PUBLIC DEFENDER SYSTEM: WILL IT WORK? By A.W. Campbell "Even private attorneys for the wealthy accused finds themselves loath to offend courthouse bureaucrats, for success in obtaining favorable dispositions for clients depends heavily on the cooperation of numerous courthouse employees. How, then, would a public defender work within the context? First, consider the fact a private attorney can at times afford to antagonize a prosecutor or courthouse worker because tomorrow that attorney works elsewhere. A public defender, however, must work within the same bureaucratic structure day after day. Thus he cannot afford to “go all out” for every client. Instead he is forced to distribute whatever cooperation or favors he may accumulated over his entire caseload- or else sprinkle them sparingly over one or two clients he personally considers “deserving.” Second, the private attorney’s bargaining strength with the prosecuting attorney rests on the fa ct the prosecutor does not have time to try all the cases on his docket- and is therefore willing to trade a lesser charge for a guilty plea. But the public defender’s docket would be only slightly less crowded than the prosecutor’s. In the hands of the public defender, then, a substantial bargaining chip for the defense is forfeited before the parties even sit down to negotiate. The unsettling result is that in the interests of the large group of indigents on each one’s docket, neither prosecutor nor public defender can afford to spend much time on any individual case. Both must reduce their large caseloads or be swamped. The bleak outcome is that two lawyers, regardless of their ethical inclinations, are virtually forced to sit down with each other and decide which indigent is going to be guilty, for what crime, and for how much time. That each lawyer is trying to attain the greatest good for the greatest number of people in the system is not reason for calling this forced bargaining an adversary proceeding. In sum, although agreeing with the Kanawha County Bar that providing indigents with counsel is a critical issue, I am far from convinced a public defender system can lead to “justice.” In the words of Learned Hand, ‘If we are to keep our democracy, there must be one commandment: Thou shalt not ration justice.” Read in full context at http://www.cwsl.edu/content/campbell/ShouldWeHavePublicDefenders.pdf In the end the public defender really is working for the paying party, the system, not his client because the clint isn't the one paying. Peace:) |
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