U.S. Rep. Dan Burton to retire
read more recent story comments Reader comments| DogParent Tuesday, January 31, 2012: 4:30 pm More from DogParent  | About time this embarrassment to Indiana conservatives retired. |
| Ratcatcher Tuesday, January 31, 2012: 5:00 pm More from Ratcatcher | I wish he would convince Lugar to retire with him. |
| LilaMae Tuesday, January 31, 2012: 7:31 pm More from LilaMae | It would be nice if the next individual that takes his place will have conservative ideas, fiscally responsible views along with the ability to reach across the aisle and work together for the good of the people. That is what our country is seriously lacking. The ability to compromise goes a long way in most decisions. |
| nobodyimportant Wednesday, February 1, 2012: 12:00 am More from nobodyimportant | Lilamae, there is a real cunundrum in your post. While it all sounds good, here's the rub. Compromise means to give up some of your position or belief in order to reach an agreement with someone who doesn't share your views. Most people I know who call themselve conservatives say that there should be no compromise on most of their conservative positions. It comes out like a sell-out to your basic tenants. How can a person stay true to conservatism by compromising? Newt Gingrich is the current best example of a politician that sings the conservative tune but plays the liberal instrument. Compromise is sometimes manifested as back-scratching. "I'll support your bill if you'll support mine." Where it really gets fuzzy is the way legislation is fashioned, particularly at the federal level. A spending bill, for instance, is usually a hodge-podge of very diverse projects, programs, and policies. Because of that, politicans can truthfully bash the people on the other side of the aisle for voting for or against a particular bill when in reality the vote was a measured response to a piece of legislation that had things in it that were good and things that were bad. It becomes a balancing act. If our governments could do anything to bring more transparency to the voting records, it would be to pass a bill that requires each bill to address a single issue or subject area. That way, each voter can see what their legislator stands for and against. Another step in the right direction would be to set limits on pork projects. Those who say we should do away with them altogether probably wouldn't like the results unless "pork" could be very tightly defined to be projects that are absolutely non-essential. One of the most sensitive issues is the amount of money that is sent to Washington and how little of it returns to the local level. If money is to flow to Washington and back, I favor block grants to states in which the states can decide on how best to allocate the funds. |
| booger Wednesday, February 1, 2012: 7:34 am More from booger | Be conservative and compromise? Is that an oxymoron? |
| nobodyimportant Wednesday, February 1, 2012: 8:29 am More from nobodyimportant | Booger, that's what makes a joke out of these terms like conservative and liberal. Those on the extreme either direction have difficulty finding common ground and the plain truth is that most of us are not consistently conservative or liberal on each and every issue. |
| Danny Stewart Wednesday, February 1, 2012: 11:12 am More from Danny Stewart | Booger it's easy for a. Onservative to. Ompromise as long as the. Ompromise doesnt go against their core principles. |
| Danny Stewart Wednesday, February 1, 2012: 11:17 am More from Danny Stewart | Guess i still need to practice doing this on my phone |
| nobodyimportant Wednesday, February 1, 2012: 4:59 pm More from nobodyimportant | That's funny, Danny. Core principals? What are conservative core principals on size of the government (please include the military), health care, welfare, and say right to work, just for four examples? |
| Danny Stewart Thursday, February 2, 2012: 7:48 pm More from Danny Stewart | Nobody, I would refer you to the Declaration of Independence, the Federalists Papers, especially Madisons comments on the matter and the Constitution when it comes to the size the federal government should be. Now, the rest, all which also have to do with the size of government, are more specific. The military needs to be of enough size and strength to deter any other nation from considering an invasion of our homeland. However, the required training of our troops in the best possible manner is more important than size. Health care is the responsiblity of the individual with the exception of those either physically or mentally unable to provide it for themselves. Same for welfare. It is not the states responsibility or right to take care of us from cradle to grave. Right to work is just that. An individuals right to work somewhere without being forced to join anything. However, they should also be given the right to do so if they wish. Our system is based on the individual and family not the collective good. |
| nobodyimportant Thursday, February 2, 2012: 9:17 pm More from nobodyimportant | Danny. That's a fair description of conservative values. "The military needs to be of enough size and strength to deter any other nation from considering an invasion of our homeland. However, the required training of our troops in the best possible manner is more important than size." So, with the size of govenment, in this case the military, the size would be whatever it takes and no more. I think that is also the position of most liberals. "Health care is the responsiblity of the individual with the exception of those either physically or mentally unable to provide it for themselves." I couldn't agree more and I am, in most people's view, "liberal" on this issue. Same for welfare. "It is not the states responsibility or right to take care of us from cradle to grave." So you support govenment subsidies for people physically and mentally incapable of caring for themselves. I think that's fairly middle of the road and certainly not very far to the right. "Right to work is just that. An individuals right to work somewhere without being forced to join anything. However, they should also be given the right to do so if they wish." "DONG" Nobody has a right to a job. Most conservatives I know believe that an employer gets to choose whether or not union representation is allowed. I think this is what makes it so hard to paint people with political labels. They usually aren't used to describe positions, but to disparage and put down those of a different viewpoint. |
| Danny Stewart Sunday, February 5, 2012: 3:27 pm More from Danny Stewart | Nobody, I would also add this to the welfare stance. For even when we were with you we commanded you this: if anyone will not work, neither shall he eat. 2 Thessalonians 3:10 So yes, while I do support welfare for those unable to take care of themselves mentally or physically, I also believe that the family should do it first without asking the government for help. However, I also understand that there are those out there that do not have any family to do this or that they have family that refuse to do it. It is a fine balance that requires a little human dignity. Therefore, my position on this is not middle of the road, it is quite far to the right. Now, as to the right to work. You take me out of context. I never stated that a person has a right to a job. To have that view would be extremely liberal. A person has the right to create his or her own job from his or her own talents. That is different and a very conservative way of thinking. Right to work only states that a person has the right to join or not to join and organization within a place they are employed if they so desire or not desire. You are correct that a place when it opens can choose to be union or non union, however, the case has been in this state, being a closed state, that if a union shop exists, you must join the union to work there. The exceptions have usually been office staff and management. |
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