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bob searcy
Saturday, September 29, 2012: 11:00 am
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eastern europe was quite familiar with poverty under soviet communism. the people pretended to work and the government pretended to pay them but they never knew the kind of desperation that exists now under free market capitalism. im in agreement with gorbachav. the way forward may require a mixture of capitalism and socialism.
i know, capitalism worked pretty well in americas younger days . exploiting the resources of a stolen continent with the help of slave labor was pretty profitable for a while..
to the right winger locals who will inevitably scream " socialist " at me; i dont revisit these comment sections. i leave my opinion and move on..
Danny Stewart
Saturday, September 29, 2012: 12:31 pm
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Bob, are you married to Sunny? The two of you sound like twins.
Hugh Jorgan
Saturday, September 29, 2012: 4:37 pm
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More "free" government money that is burning a hole in someone's pocket. Hello idiots, we are 16 trillion dollars in the hole and people still spend, spend, spend. How many people are double, triple and quadruple dipping the system?? They get free healthcare, free or reduced rent, food stamps, Obamaphones, township assistance with utilities, reduced or free lunches while school is in session, reduced or free lunches when school is NOT in session, WIC and now free showers and a laundromat. It is not the schools responsibility to be the social provider for everyone's every beckoned need. Their responsibility is to educate at which they do just a mediocre job of compared to other industrialized nations. In Mooresville alone there is a church on almost every street corner, there is the Church in Mission and now the MG House. Is poverty that big of a business that it requires all of this competition?? I don't mean to sound heartless but I can assure you that the people that REALLY need this new service will be too proud to use it and the people that do use it will be abusing it and adding to their list another teat to suck off of. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!!!
nobodyimportant
Saturday, September 29, 2012: 7:03 pm
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I give the principal and her staff credit for thinking, "what can we do to help?" I hear the shrill voices of, "don't use my (tax) money to help these bottom feeders." The thing is, it isn't your money. It isn't the government's money. It isn't the school's money. It is God's money, and we have just been given the task of putting it to use. We'll spend it on something or somebody. Why not the homeless?
Hugh Jorgan
Saturday, September 29, 2012: 10:15 pm
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Uhh....because we don't have it that's why. I don't think God would be too happy paying 40 cents of interest on every $1 borrowed. If we had a surplus I would not have that big of issue with it.
Uncle Joe
Saturday, September 29, 2012: 10:39 pm
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Christian and other private charities help people become self-reliant. Govt creates dependency for a lifetime. Govt takes money from some to give to others to buy votes with. While in the process destroying the lives of those on welfare. Sick concept if you think about it. nobodyimportant needs to work on discernment.
Hugh Jorgan
Saturday, September 29, 2012: 10:57 pm
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I think we now understand the relevance of their choice of usernames!!
artsandcraftsy
Saturday, September 29, 2012: 11:53 pm
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I don't understand why people helping people is such a terrible thing. Maybe if any of you were ever in the position of the homeless families you wouldn't be so rude. I am lucky and blessed to not have "need" in my family. We are blessed beyond compare and have never had to receive assistance of any kind. But not everyone is so blessed. Explain to a small child why you feel he and his bottom feeder family are not entitled to food and clean clothes. There is more to life than money. God forbid anyone care about someone besides themselves.
Hugh Jorgan
Sunday, September 30, 2012: 12:29 am
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So it's alright to destroy lives as long as you feel good doing it???
nobodyimportant
Sunday, September 30, 2012: 8:39 am
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Government will take tax money and spend it on something or somebody. The national debt is a good study on this. The republicans are beating up on our president for the escalation national debt. And the drumbeat is about the costs of "entitlements". But an examination of the track record of the debt reveals that it has risen at a slower pace than it did under the previous republican administration, where much of the debt has been attributed to the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. Take out the money spent on those wars from 2009 through this yearas our president tries to get us out of where we never should have gone and you get a rising national debt that would be even discussed in this election campaign.

Yes, I prefer spending American government money on the American public rather than playing with the politics of other nations, trying to convince them that they too can have a democracy like the United States and all we have to do is give the opposition a lot of money to overthrow the bad guys and if that doesn't work, we'll liberate them by going to war.

Two of the largest factors in the new homeless populations of the past decade are loss of income from jobs disappearing or being replaced with lower paying positions and the cost of medical care. Not nearly all of the homeless are victims, and that has to be recognized, but to paint them as unworthy of getting help from a government that is supposed to be for 100% of the people is indeed unfortunate.
Ratcatcher
Sunday, September 30, 2012: 8:52 am
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nobodyimportant said:
The thing is, it isn't your money. It isn't the government's money. It isn't the school's money. It is God's money, and we have just been given the task of putting it to use. We'll spend it on something or somebody. Why not the homeless?


Hang on just a minute. God BLESSES me with a certain amount of that money and it is my task to put it to use the way I see fit. But that isn't possible when the government TAKES a big chunk of it away from me to spend on what it sees fit. I contend that I (and the majority of other Americans who are known to be a compassionate people) would do a better job spending it than the government. For example I would choose to help the poor and homeless and not send Michelle on another fancy, expensive vacation. I would choose to pay for education and work training instead of funding another month of the president's golf games. I say give the money back to the people and let us decide who is entitled to it.
nobodyimportant
Monday, October 1, 2012: 9:58 pm
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Ratchatcher, I would not argue with the premise that each of us could make better decisions about how best to spend money than the government. But the fact is, government is necessary and they will take money from the general public to do its work. We set up that type of government. If we want to limit the ability of government to take money, we elect people who will do that. It is true that God blesses each of us with some money, but it is not true that we have the task of using it as we best see fit. We don't have the option of keeping it all. If that were true, government would have to act as a charitable institution, gathering what people were willing to give.

The issue is differences in opinion over the priorities set by government to determine where the money goes and for what. You conclude with a proposal, ". I say give the money back to the people and let us decide who is entitled to it." What money is this that you want back? All of it? A portion of it that goes to initiatives of which you don't approve?

Do you want an individual right to target your tax money? How would that work? It seems to me it still boils down to differenxce of opinion on what or whom to spend the money. You and I would differ on the priorities and that is good conversation, but the reality is that we elect people to make those decisions. We get to tell them what we think and we get to exercise our rights to vote for or against them.

This isn't a republican or democrat issue. Both sides of the isle has shown their propensity to push their agendas and thus the money. Never has it been more clear than with the rising national debt. The growth of the debt has slowed slightly under O'bama from the Bush era and you can easily see the agendas that drove the Bush and the Obama experiences. Bush ran the bill up on wars. O'bama has done it on social agendas. Though I don't like some of the Obamaagenda, I sure prefer it generally over being the global police. We can have a strong national defense without trying to convert third world non-Christian countries to democracies.

Anyway, I appreciate the dialogue with you.
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